Horror Subgenre Movie Draft (w/ Zachary Lee)

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It wasn't closely.
What's the secret thing?

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Just got to find something you
love to do and then do it for

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the rest of your life.
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my environment, I want my
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me.
Hello and welcome.

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To the Establishing Shot podcast
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We do deep dives into directors
and their filmographies.

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I am your host Eli Price, and we
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podcast.
But it is a bit of a different

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kind of season in the podcast.
I do still have to wrap up the

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Spielberg series with the
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And I believe last episode I
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episode, but I lied.
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I am going to be getting around
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So hopefully that will be the
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probably see that we will take a
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the year.
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I might do kind of a recap on
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through my maybe top 21 movies
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something like that just for
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Yeah.
So this episode, it is

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Halloween.
So happy Halloween to everyone

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out there.
We are going to be releasing an

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A movie draft that we did in
conjunction with, I think it was

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in the the episode for The Dark
Knight Rises.

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It didn't really have anything
to do with The Dark Knight

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Rises.
It just happened to be spooky

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season during that episode.
And so we did this draft.

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And so my guest for that draft
was Zachary Lee.

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You can find his work, He does a
lot of writing for

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rodgerebert.com amongst other
publications.

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I believe he is part of the
Chicago Critics, whatever their

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kind of critic group is called
now.

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So Zachary is awesome guy.
I always enjoy having him on.

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But yeah, so this is going to be
a horror sub genre draft.

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So we take the the various sub
genres of horror and draft

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movies.
We have to have one for each sub

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genre category.
And so I'll explain that as we

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get into the episode.
But yeah, I hope you enjoy this

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episode and enjoy mine and
Zachary's choices.

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But yeah, let's get into that.
We, we've got a really fun movie

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draft.
It's going to be different than

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any movie draft we've done
before.

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So I hope, I hope we can both
figure this out and do it.

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I've planned it in my mind.
But yes, we'll pick like a

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category or a topic that is in a
movie and we'll just kind of go

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back and forth and draft movies
that fall into that category.

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But this time I wanted to do
something related to horror.

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We're in October.
I couldn't think of a good movie

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draft relating to Dark Knight
Rises necessarily because we've

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already done the DC1, we've done
the villains draft and The Dark

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Knight episode.
And so I was like, man, what are

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we going to do?
And I was like, well, it's

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coming to the end of October
when this is releasing.

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And so let's do a horror movie
draft of some sort.

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So we, we kind of decided that
we would do a horror subgenre

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draft.
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going to do, I, I found an
article by no Film school that I

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can link it in the, in the show
notes if anyone's interested.

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But it kind of breaks down the
subgenres of horror.

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Probably not like all of the
subgenres, but like the the main

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ones.
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categories and then like sub,
main sub genres and then like

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sub genres within the sub genre
and in that article.

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And so, but we're going to go
with the main sub genres.

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So we're going to basically what
we're going to do is still the

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same concept.
We want to draft, you know, the

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best team of movies so that we
can win the votes when when it

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goes public.
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instead of just going back and
forth and drafting from a big

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pool of movies, we're going to
have to draft one movie in each

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of these sub genres.
And so we don't have to draft

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the genres in a particular
order, but we do have to fill

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one movie per per category.
And so I'm going to list these

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categories so that everyone can
know what they are.

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They are psychological horror,
killer or slasher horror, gore

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or disturbing horror, monster
horror, paranormal and then

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miscellaneous, which
miscellaneous kind of covers

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stuff that doesn't necessarily
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So when you can think of like
there's horror comedy or there's

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like found footage horror and a
few other like kind of like sub

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genres that maybe don't
necessarily fit into those

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others, those all fun fall under
miscellaneous.

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And then I figured too, we could
get a wild card so that we could

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get an extra favorite in there.
So that's 12345677 choices that

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we've got to make their seven
movies.

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So yeah, I hope everyone is
following what we're doing here.

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I hope I explained it clearly.
Basically we're we've got to

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draft 1 horror movie from each
of these subgenres.

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And yeah, so Zachary's going to
kick it off with the first pick.

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Where are you going to go?
There's there's some extra

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strategy here because you want
to get the best films, but you

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also want to like figure out
which category you want to put

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it in.
I know, right?

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Yeah.
And I will say it's, it's

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interesting 'cause I like, you
know, per my Chicken Run story

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from earlier this episode, I
think.

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Yeah, I was not big into the
horror genre until honestly, I'd

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say last year, maybe the little
bit the year before.

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So a lot of my horror watches
are newer.

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So I don't know.
I'm, I'm curious to see you

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though how that'll work in my
favour for the listeners of the

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Establishing Shop podcast, if
they're more traditional old

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school horror film loyalists or
they're, they're, they're down

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with the the modern stuff too.
So yeah, we'll see how it lands.

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It'll be a learning experience
for me too because I have no

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idea.
Yeah, I know we're testing the

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fuelers out, you know, for doing
some crowdsourcing info here

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that yeah, you know, I'll go,
you know, I'll just go straight

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for the for the gnarly, the the
the gore disturbing film, you

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know, just because you know why?
Why not actually wait, sorry to

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me.
Can you cut that and go back?

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I realized maybe it's better I
should say the film 1st and then

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I'll do the segment.
Is that better or it it?

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Doesn't matter to me.
OK, cool.

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You know what?
I'll just, I'll just do it.

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I'll just repeat it.
It'll be fine.

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Sorry, I was I think in my mind
I was like oh should I say the

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film 1st and then do the?
No, I think either way is fine

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if you want to tease it with the
with the with the category first

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or just go straight into the
movie it demos.

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Straight into it.
OK, cool.

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It doesn't matter.
Either way, sorry to me for

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that.
No worries.

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Well, this won't be too tough to
edit out in the bigger part of

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it.
But yeah, I know for my first

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pick, I'll go in line with the
newer films.

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I'll go with Brandon
Cronenberg's Possessor.

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So this was released in 2010.
Yeah.

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It's, I mean, disturbing body
horror.

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Takes after his dad in a lot of
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twisted take on it.
I think.

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Andrea Risen, bro.
Right.

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And then Christopher Abbott are
in it and phenomenal, great

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stuff.
And so I'll I'll slap that into

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the the gore disturbing film
category perspect.

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So yeah, yeah, I haven't seen
that one.

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I'm trying to think too like if
I've seen any Cronenberg of him

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or his dad's.
I don't know that I have.

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It's just one of those kind of
like I don't have like an

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expansive like horror genre like
knowledge either.

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Like I've tried to catch up with
more and more over the years,

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but but yeah, I don't think the
Cronenberg's are.

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I don't think I've seen any of
them.

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So yeah, that's definitely a
blind spot for me.

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Honestly, you will probably
sleep better.

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I'm not.
It's like once a year.

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I can appreciate the film for
the themes that Hazen's trying

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to say, but it's one of those
like, well, I guess I'll have to

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wrestle with my soul for a
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See this.
Yeah, it's.

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Yeah.
But, you know, curious.

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Yeah, I, I caught up with a a
particular film this past week,

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knowing that this was coming and
feeling like I should watch this

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and I feel like I would have
slept better if I would have

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left it.
But we'll see if I drafted at

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some point.
I'm going to go with probably

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what I think is one of the just
probably the one of the most

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iconic horror movies.
I'm going to go with Psycho in

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the psychological horror.
I mean, it's right there in the

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the name of the movie, the genre
that's perfect.

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I, you know, I just feel like
Psycho and Hitchcock, for one,

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like it's, it's a master class
in suspense building.

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And like, yeah, that
psychological horror of just

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what's going on with Phil Bates
and his mom.

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Like, yeah, it's, it's very
disturbing.

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So I just think it's, yeah, it's
it's to me, it's a master class

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of suspense by the master of
suspense, Alfred Hitchcock.

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So yeah, of course go with
Psycho.

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And there's some really good
ones I had written down for that

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category, So it was kind of hard
to choose.

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But yeah, that's what I'm gonna
go with.

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There we go.
That's great.

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Yeah, I'll.
Oh, OK, let me see here seeing

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you.
You went out swinging with that

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one.
So now I'm like, oh, I gotta

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think about these other
categories now.

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I'll go with.
OK, so next film, older film.

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So one of the, I think probably
no, actually it might not be the

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oldest, maybe second, second
oldest title that's on here for

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me.
Also near addition to my heart

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as I saw it.
I saw it for the first time this

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year, but I saw its sequel
first.

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And then I saw it, so I.
Don't know.

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I don't know if that was the
right way to do it, but it is

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the 1992 film Candy Man.
Yeah.

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I yeah, I saw it for the first
time at a a small arts theatre

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in DC when I was staying there.
And yeah, I mean, you know, and

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I love NIA Decosta's film from a
couple years ago.

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I thought it was great.
And, you know, I'm being from

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Chicago and having witnessed the
gentrification and, yeah,

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changing of the Cabrini Green
neighborhood.

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A lot of the the film really
stuck to me.

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But I think, yeah, I don't know.
I just in in similar themes of

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what we were talking about Eli
and the podcast about

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generational sin and trauma and
violence and what it looks like

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to have it, you know, and like,
you know, you know, privileged

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people and like the way they
like want to Co opt or turn

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other people suffering into like
a a thesis or a project, you

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know, and I don't know, like
what they unleash with that.

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I felt like very timely and
relevant and still very scary

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and fits neatly in the slasher
genre, which is where I'll place

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my pick there for the next film.
So yeah.

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So yeah, Candy Man, the 1990,
the first one that came out.

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Yeah, that was on my list for
Slasher.

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I don't know if I would have
drafted it, but necessarily

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because I have one or two more
that I like a little bit more.

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But yeah, that that is, I think
that's probably one of my top

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slasher films.
Yeah, for sure.

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It's it's great.
Yeah, I did see the the kind of,

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I guess it's kind of like AI
guess it's a sequel.

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It feels like half sequel.
Yeah, it feels like half reboot,

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half sequel, half sequel because
it's yeah, but yeah, it's it was

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OK.
Yeah, I thought it was really

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well made.
I didn't like some of the

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choices, but yeah, the the
original 92 version is very good

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and like, like, yeah, just
really good, like disturbing

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filmmaking going on in it.
So yeah, OK, OK, this is playing

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out interesting because like,
yeah, I feel like I can wait on

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ones that you've already drafted
on categories because you've

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already drafted in them.
But then again, like you can

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draft, you might be able to
draft a movie you know in a

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category because some of them
fit into multiple, right?

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That that was what was fun and
interesting is like, oh, where

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do they like slot and fit?
Like I could put, you know, I

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don't know, like Candyman into
like, was that partly

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psychological?
And no, you know, yeah, so or

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monster, even if you think about
it in a way.

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Yeah, that's true.
OK, Where am I going to go here?

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You know, I think, I think I am
going to go ahead and just draft

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my favorite.
I think what I would say is like

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my favorite horror movie ever in
the miscellaneous category.

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There we go.
Because it's a found footage

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film and that is The Blair Witch
Project.

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I love The Blair Witch Project.
It is like so creepy, so

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disturbing and like even just
like the mythos surrounded of

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like people like thinking it was
real when they saw it and like

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back in the day.
Like, yeah, I, I just think it's

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like a really like a really good
like piece of horror filmmaking,

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but really just like a unique
phenomena of like filmmaking in

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general, in general terms.
So yeah, The Blair Witch

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Project, which was 99, it was in
that that very strong year of

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1999.
So, but yeah, I'm I'll put it in

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miscellaneous, which covers the
the found footage genre.

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No, that's great.
I have not seen that.

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But it's, you know, reputation
precedes it so very much it's

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what's 1 of that?
I want to kind of get to yeah,

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OK, interesting.
All right, so miscellaneous

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category there.
I honestly, I thought you're

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going to say like paranormal
activity initially or something

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like that.
I don't know.

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I don't even know if that's like
shot and found footage or or

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will, which wouldn't no, no diss
to those films, but yeah, I I

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was like, Oh yeah, clear witch
like the revolutionary found

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footage horror for like of
course that would be oh, this is

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tough.
OK, now I'm like like double

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checking like is this even?
Does it even count?

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I might come back to that later.
I'll go with.

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OK, so in the in the vein of
Blair Witch and, you know, found

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footage technique, maybe it
applies.

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So I've another film in
preparation for the sequel that

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came out this year to the film,
which is where I found.

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I feel like all these legacy
sequels are giving me an excuse

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to like watch the Ogs for the
first.

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Time.
You know, things like that, but

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I'm going to go with the 81 the
Evil Dead film for next pick.

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And you know, we're talking
about found footage, that sorts

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of thing.
I don't know, like I feel like

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so much can be said about the
fun camera angles that are

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there.
You know, like I think the way

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it's it embodies such an off
kilter sort of, you know,

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ambiance and and personality to
it.

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I mean it even goes further with
like the second one, the whole

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tree stuff.
I'm I will caveat, I'm not a big

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fan of that.
I don't really know what the

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whole point of that was in this
movie.

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But as far as paranormal, which
is where this falls under goes,

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I've really I don't know.
It's like, it's one of those

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films where like, it's it, it
could be miscellaneous because

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it's also very funny, but it's,
I don't know, like classic, like

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cabin friends or like, you know,
there's this like there's no

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going back.
You just have to fight them.

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There's a dread element that's
there I I enjoy.

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Yeah.
So I'll go with Evil Dead for my

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paranormal film.
Paranormal.

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OK, yeah, that's actually
another blind spot that like

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it's one of those that like, I
probably, I might end up

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watching it this October
sometime.

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Yeah.
Someone that I've always wanted

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to get around to.
And you, I know for sure there's

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one of my friends that like
loves like Sam Raimi horror.

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And so like you might have won a
vote with that one for sure.

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I've gotten I got one vote
potentially.

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OK, so I think, I know, I think
at this point in the draft like

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my strategy is pretty set.
I'm going to, I'm going to go

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ahead and draft a movie that I
caught up with I think last

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year, the year before, a classic
horror movie in Frankenstein,

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the original Frankenstein, I
want to say 19th in the monster

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category.
I was like honestly, honestly

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like it was I was watching some
of these older like monster

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movies because I was like, I
want to catch up with some of

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these classics.
It was kind of like a more

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homework kind of endeavor.
And I was actually like blown

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away by Frankenstein.
Like the set pieces and stuff

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like are definitely of its time,
but somehow hold up and fit the

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atmosphere.
And then like the just the ideas

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that are being dealt with about
humanity, what makes a human

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human is really interesting.
And like, even like there's

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moments of like like really deep
emotional, like resonance in

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this movie that like totally
caught me off guard.

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And so it's, it's become one of
my, my personal favorites.

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And so, yeah, I'm doing, yeah,
Frankenstein and Monster.

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Which?
What year was that one again, at

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least?
1931. 31 OK, great.

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I'm adding it to the watch list
right now.

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Another blind spot, but the
poster's classic, you know.

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And yeah, it, it honestly, like,
it honestly blew me away.

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I was not expecting to love it
as much as I did.

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And like, I finished it and I
was like, man, that's, I think I

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have it rated like a 4 1/2 star,
like, so, yeah, yeah.

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Fantastic.
Great.

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Yeah.
Well, this is me just

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desperately trying to form
connections and bounce off of

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between our picks.
But I know is it's a black and

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white film.
Is that am I correctly for?

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But in my mind, Frankenstein is
always portrayed with some

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elements of green on.
On Frankenstein, of course, I'm

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in the classroom, say
Frankenstein's monster is always

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portrayed with some elements of
green on him.

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And so that ties in nicely for
my next pick, which is the 2015

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film Green Room.
So that was who was that?

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Jeremy Saulnier is the director
for that.

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It was a no, they're a 24 film,
so you know, you kind of know

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what you're getting there.
But I man, I saw this for the

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first time last year, also on
Hulu, which shout out Hulu.

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They have some great films just
on their both their original

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content and they're just the
ones that they get.

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But I it's it's about a kind of
a punk band that travel are

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doing shows and then they end up
doing this one show, which ends

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up being this bar where these
neo Nazis hang out, which is led

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by was it Patrick Stewart as
like the head neo Nazi, which is

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just like, I don't know, played
against type for him.

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I'm just used to seeing him
being like, you know, the

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elegant professor X or yeah,
hard.

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And he's like dropping F bombs
and like saying questionable

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things all the time.
So definitely different.

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And it's about their like fight
to survive, I guess.

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And you know, I don't know, it
was it's just like, you know,

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from the get go, it's just very
like tightly paced.

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I I'm like double checking there
with you here.

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But I think it's like, yeah, 95
minutes, you know, so it's like

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already great timing choice.
It's like frenetically paced

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brutal.
I think, you know, very much

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like gets in your head too,
because, you know, so I'm

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sliding this under psychological
because you're kind of like

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you're in these confined areas
and spaces and you're just like,

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how how are these people going
to escape?

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What have they gotten themselves
into?

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I mean, sadly very pressy and
commentary about, you know, all

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right, you know, extreme, you
know, and are extremists of any

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sort of, you know, political
party being in a space and how

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you you know, how do you fight
that?

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And you know, for some people,
it's not to get too graphic.

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It's you take a box cutter to
the stomach and that's how you

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win.
But like, is that really the we

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should win for the rest of time?
I don't know.

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So, yeah, all to say, Green Room
2015 film.

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I was my pick for a psychologic.
Yeah, yeah, that's another one

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that's been like floating around
on my my watch list for a while

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that I just haven't gotten to.
So yeah, you're really like

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schooling me on my watch list.
You same with me so.

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Yeah, Yeah.
Well, I guess the feelings

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mutual then.
Yeah.

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OK, so this is my 4th pick.
We're starting.

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We're going to start for sure.
You started it with your pick,

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but we're going to have to start
overlapping our categories now.

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OK, I'm going to go with.
I'm going to go ahead and go

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with my A movie that I caught up
with last year that I really,

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really enjoyed.
It was like both fun and really

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disturbing, which is maybe a
spoiler of the category.

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I'm going to go with the thing.
Oh, yes.

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The thing is, it's a great
movie.

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So good.
Yeah.

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John Carpenter just kind of like
it's wild.

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It's crazy that Kurt Russell is
in this movie of all people, but

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yeah, it's, yeah.
I mean, I think it fits for me.

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And the gore, disturbing.
There's a lot of like body

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horror in this movie with the
way this kind of like alien

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creature or Organism, I guess,
like distorts like living

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objects and really weird,
disturbing ways.

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So yeah, I think it fits nicely
into that, that gore and

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disturbing category in my
personal opinion.

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Yeah, Really good movie.
It's like, it's one of those

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things where it's like it's very
disturbing and has some

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interesting things to say about,
you know, what we're willing to

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do when, like, pressed up
against the wall with fear and

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how we, like, treat each other.
But also like, it's kind of fun,

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like in a way that only horror
movies can be dealing with such

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deep, like, dark issues and also
be fun at the same time.

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So yeah, love.
That no, I I also had just

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caught up with it last I think
one of the theaters, they were

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like, was it like an anniversary
or something last year I think.

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Maybe.
Let's see.

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Yeah, 1982.
So that would have been the 50th

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or the the 40th, yeah.
The 40th, yeah.

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So I thought it was, I don't
know.

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It was.
I thought that was, it was also

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good.
So that's a that's a fun one.

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Great.
I'll OK, let me see here.

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I think Speaking of like one
that's like both well, as you

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were saying, it's like
disturbing, but also, you know,

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I don't know, like it's it's
entertaining, enjoyable.

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I think this other one saw last
year and occupy.

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It's it's one of it's another.
It's a similar fusion but this

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time of genre of like the body
horror but also teen coming of

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age romance.
So it's Lucas films, Guardinos

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Bones and all.
So I think it's Taylor Russell

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and Timothy Chalamet and it
focus, I mean, it focuses on

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these two cannibals lovers and
their journey of trying to like

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navigate and build a life where,
you know, they're always

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fighting with these impulses
that they have to feed, as they

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say.
But also, you know, it's like

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element of like this is how
we're made.

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So who are we to deny how we're
made?

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And then also being like, but
you know, we're ruined people's

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lives And what does it mean to
keep appetites and desire in

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check?
So it's like, it's a very, it's

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like big no mistake.
It's like a very like when I say

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cannibal movie, I'm just like,
OK, I guess we're really just

444
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,560
going to show you just notion on
somebody's head or something.

445
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,800
You know, like it'll go there,
but it's very much like a it's

446
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,320
you know, it's a road trip
movie.

447
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,280
It's a it's a romance movie, you
know, between these characters

448
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,840
coming of age, you know, in a
way with this twist.

449
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,280
So it's a very like, I don't
know, it's like it's one of

450
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,960
those like it blends those all
those genres really well.

451
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,320
So it's kind of hard to place,
you know, when I was thinking

452
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,800
about it, I was like, is it?
It's gore?

453
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,040
But it's not, you know, there's
some psychological, you know, I

454
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,520
don't know.
So that's my miscellaneous.

455
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,680
OK.
Bones and bones and all.

456
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:17,960
So yeah.
OK, cool.

457
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,640
Yeah, Yeah, I had heard good
things about it.

458
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,760
Came out last year, right?
Yeah, 2022, So yeah, yeah.

459
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,720
I think I definitely heard good
things about it and I haven't

460
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,080
gotten around to to seeing it
myself, but but yeah, it's

461
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,480
definitely it was definitely
like intriguing.

462
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,000
I heard about it.
I was like, oh, I'm like, try to

463
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,120
check this out.
So I have let's see we you have

464
00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:42,600
two more and I have three more
now.

465
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:48,720
So there's the wild card, which
I need a slasher and I need a

466
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,520
paranormal and OK, I think I
know what I'm going to do.

467
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,480
I'm going to go ahead and go
with paranormal and I'm going to

468
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:04,720
go with Robert Eggers the witch
for if you want to have it with

469
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,160
the two V's the.
Vivage the bitch.

470
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,280
There you go.
That's right.

471
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,640
I this film is one that like
kind of has grown in my

472
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,040
estimation.
Like I've only seen it once like

473
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,680
a couple years ago, but it's
like a grown in my regard of it

474
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,000
ever since I've seen it just
like every time I think back of

475
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,400
it, like the imagery of it, it's
dislike.

476
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:33,120
So obviously Edgar's is like at
this point known for like really

477
00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:36,440
being obsessive about like
getting the period and the

478
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,960
language and the, and like the
design and everything, like

479
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,200
exactly how it was and the the
setting of his movie.

480
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:49,240
You know, it's when you watch
the witch, you're very much in

481
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:54,960
its world, which is an
impressive thing that Edgars

482
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,440
does.
I think the Witch is probably

483
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:02,560
his best film of the, I think
there's three so far because he

484
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,640
has The Lighthouse and Northman
also, and it's my favorite of

485
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:11,400
those three.
And the way it deals with this,

486
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:16,400
like the idea of cutting
yourself off from community and

487
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,120
the dangers you open yourself up
to when you do that, even if

488
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:25,520
it's maybe for like justifiable
reasons or like, you know, at

489
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,920
the end of the day, there's a
bit of pride that comes with not

490
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,200
being willing to like, give and
take with a community.

491
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,360
It's set in like early America
and I'm pretty sure.

492
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:41,040
And it's like this Puritan
community or some sort of

493
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:45,400
Christian community, either
Puritans or something like that.

494
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,000
And he has a disagreement with
like the elders of the community

495
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,840
and he's basically like
excommunicated from it, him and

496
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,320
his family.
And then like, they're on the

497
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,720
edge of these woods.
There's like strange stuff

498
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:02,440
happening in the woods.
Their baby goes missing and it's

499
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,680
just like dealing with that idea
of what happens when you

500
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,760
separate yourself from community
and, like, what sorts of horrors

501
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,280
might you open yourself up to by
doing that?

502
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,960
Super interesting.
And like, really like,

503
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,760
disturbing.
Well made movie.

504
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,320
Yeah.
So I definitely recommend that

505
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:26,280
one.
The Witch.

506
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,320
I'm going to take it.
Did I say paranormal for it?

507
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:35,440
Yes, yeah.
Which would make it makes more

508
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,000
sense when you watch the film
why it's in the paranormal

509
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,440
category.
But it's definitely so you'll

510
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,080
have to go watch it to find out
why.

511
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,080
I won't.
I won't give anything away.

512
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,880
Yeah, I know, I know.
Like the AMC's near me, they're

513
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,840
doing like thrills, like they're
bringing back some of the class,

514
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,600
like those horror movies.
So I think I sadly missed that

515
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,000
one, but I know it might be on
Netflix or something, so I'll

516
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,440
probably watch it.
But yeah, that's yeah, that's

517
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,480
you saying it's like a good
reminder, like, Oh yeah, I've

518
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:01,960
been meaning to to catch that
one.

519
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,160
OK, yeah, let me see here.
So final 2 for me.

520
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,480
I think I'll go with so.
OK, so you got The witch.

521
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,320
I'll go.
I'm so torn here.

522
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,240
I might have to just be a game
time decision.

523
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,840
You know what, I'll go with the
one I feel like I can speak more

524
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,720
about at the moment.
But it was not quite the Witch.

525
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:27,400
But in other, you know, there
was this film sleeper head of

526
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:32,360
last year, Barbarian.
So Zach Prager directed that

527
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:32,960
one.
Yeah.

528
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,080
Or were you going to say
something?

529
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,320
You.
Know I was just going to say

530
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,560
another like one that I have
heard great things about but

531
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,200
haven't gotten around to.
Yeah, no, it's OK.

532
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,600
I it will.
I will just say it is without

533
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,760
because I want you to be able to
enjoy it without, you know, me

534
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,800
having to share too much.
But like, it's a there's a

535
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:58,160
monster element to the film that
I think what I enjoyed in

536
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,200
particular about it.
One was that it it has a lot of

537
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,200
twists and turns.
You don't quite know where it's

538
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,920
going, but it explores this
idea.

539
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,160
I think in general, I think it
is actually, or rather it fits

540
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,600
into this Canon that I've
enjoyed lately of when I think

541
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,440
about monster movies, I've one
of the things that draws me to

542
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,160
those types of films is this
idea of like the monsters being

543
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,880
instruments of divine justice
for the oppressed or

544
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,440
underrepresented.
And so, you know, I even think

545
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,320
about like I love Godzilla.
And I think it was very recently

546
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,400
I learned it's like a allegory
or connection, you know, with

547
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,240
the atomic bomb and, you know,
being dropped on Japan and you

548
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,240
know, like, I guess that was
there, but it was like it's only

549
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,760
been more recently of like
viewed those films through that

550
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,320
social lens or sociological
lens.

551
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,480
So I'll just say, without giving
too much, I think I like how

552
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,600
Barbarian in its unique way fits
into this this Canon.

553
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,760
So that that's my monster movie,
let's say.

554
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,080
So yeah, that was released.
Last year.

555
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,000
OK, cool.
Yeah, yeah, I guess we'll both

556
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,360
maybe it looks like we're going
to just both save our wild card

557
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:10,480
for last for a while.
Yeah, I'm going to go with the

558
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,920
only category other than wild
card that I have left is the

559
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,400
killer slasher.
This is one that I've struggled

560
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:23,080
with, like enjoying in the past.
Maybe similar with like the

561
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:27,360
typical movie you think about
with like the gore or by your.

562
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,520
But yeah, I've caught up with a
few of these recently.

563
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,120
Maybe I can mention others in
honorable mentions, but I

564
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:42,120
watched one recently that like
shook me like to the core, I

565
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,600
think.
And it's like, man, it's one of

566
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,960
those where you watch and you
almost wish you didn't wash it

567
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,360
like our hat like.
But at the same time, you're

568
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,760
like, man, that was like
phenomenal filmmaking.

569
00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:02,360
I'm going to go with the 74
classic of The Texas Chainsaw

570
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:03,280
Massacre.
Oh.

571
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,120
Great, I've not seen but I I
understand the reaction to.

572
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,280
That I was like, one of the
things that like you don't

573
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:17,080
really think about is like how
sound can be horrifying and like

574
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:21,679
the sounds in this movie are
like, it like just makes my skin

575
00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:24,040
crawl just like thinking about
it.

576
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,520
And yeah, it's one of those
that's like, I don't know, like,

577
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,960
there's probably more.
The themes that it's dealing

578
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:36,199
with are less like these deep
emotional themes and more like

579
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:41,360
maybe primal themes of like,
survival in the will to live and

580
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,199
that sort of thing.
But man, is it like a master

581
00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:50,000
class of setting, like beauty in
the background of like absolute

582
00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:52,600
disgusting horror horror.
Like.

583
00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:58,400
It's because there's scenes that
you watch where there's where if

584
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,840
you like, take out what's going
on in the foreground, the

585
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,720
background is like phenomenally
beautifully shot.

586
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,000
But then like you add back in
what's going on in the

587
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:14,040
foreground and you're like,
yeah, anyways, yeah, that's when

588
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,840
I'm going for for Slasher.
No, it's it's interesting

589
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,360
because I think the other film
that I've seen destroyed, which

590
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,400
I've not seen, maybe it's some
more pivot later, was that movie

591
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,800
Midsommar, which I haven't seen,
I haven't seen.

592
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,080
But it's that same idea of
beautiful backdrop with just

593
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,840
like, absolutely horrific stuff
going on.

594
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,840
So yeah, that'll be, it's like
one of those things like,

595
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,240
daylight doesn't save you here.
You know, you can watch this in

596
00:35:39,240 --> 00:35:41,840
broad daylight and you're just,
you're still going to be

597
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:43,560
disturbed.
Yeah.

598
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,720
I out so I guess for final
selection, my wild card.

599
00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:51,200
I know this movie has its fans
as well as its detractors, but I

600
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,720
think the more I think about it,
the more I love it It's that

601
00:35:54,720 --> 00:35:58,200
it's the 2021 James Wan film
malignant.

602
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,840
So this one was I think just, I
think it got a limited release,

603
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,520
but then really got a life on
HBO Max.

604
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,280
But it's just such a fun.
Like the way I, you know, you

605
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,040
don't expect some of the twists
there.

606
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,760
I think like James did this
right after, yeah, this was

607
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:19,280
after he directed Aquaman, which
is like a billion dollar movie.

608
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,840
So yeah, I firmly believe I'm
like, I mean, I liked Aquaman,

609
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:27,760
but I'm like, I'm even happier
that Aquaman doing so well led

610
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,960
to James being able to have the
relational capital to be like, I

611
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,160
just want to make this for me.
Yeah.

612
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,440
You're going to pay for it,
Warner rose.

613
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,600
Because guess what?
I just made you a billion

614
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,920
dollars, you know, or more so
everything.

615
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,960
Yeah, like the any.
I don't know.

616
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:47,080
It's it's a it's a very I think
just it's one of those movies

617
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:52,440
that is funny in this in the
ways that it commits fully to

618
00:36:52,720 --> 00:36:56,760
the kind of bonker premise, the
bonkers premise and all the

619
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,640
characters.
I think like Annabelle Wallace

620
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,000
is the main actress in it, but
she I think just some of the

621
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,320
deline deliveries, like I think
it's easy in certain movies to

622
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:09,800
be like you're trying to go, you
know, have each line be deeper

623
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,880
or it's a double entendre of a
greater theme.

624
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,320
But they're just like saying the
line straight.

625
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,000
It's just a very like kind of
has that B movie feel to it, but

626
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:25,080
with great effects and actions.
So yeah, Malignant, there's my

627
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,600
wild card pick.
Yeah, yeah, that's another one.

628
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,880
Like there's I feel like I have
like a running list of more

629
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,040
recent like horror movies that I
just like haven't had the chance

630
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,680
to catch up with.
It's one of those things like my

631
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,160
wife is like not only like is
she not interested in, she's

632
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,320
like almost like pretty much
like anti horror movie, like

633
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,240
don't like don't watch that in
my house.

634
00:37:47,240 --> 00:37:51,080
So it's kind of like it's kind
of like I'm like, OK, I have to

635
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,680
like not talk about these movies
with her at all.

636
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:58,600
Like not even mentioned just
because like she's like, and

637
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,880
it's not like I don't think it's
a flaw.

638
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,920
I think it's, it's just like
personality.

639
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,600
She's just like, I'm not
interested in knowing any of

640
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,520
that stuff.
And I'm like, I kind of like

641
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:14,920
respect about her in a way, but
also like, I really enjoy like

642
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,480
digging into these movies and
like out why they're so

643
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:23,440
disturbing.
And but yeah, that's that's

644
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,240
another one that I haven't had
the chance to catch up with.

645
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,520
Maybe it's because the past few
Octobers I've done a lot of like

646
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,440
catching up with older stuff and
like I kind of overlooked the

647
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,960
the newer stuff.
But yeah, I am going to go with

648
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:45,000
something relatively newer for
my wild card.

649
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,600
It's I guess you could say it's
a a personal favorite.

650
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:53,840
It might still be my favorite
Jordan Peele movie and it's

651
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,960
probably not the one most people
would think I'm talking about.

652
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,240
I'm going to go with us.
Ah, there we go.

653
00:38:59,240 --> 00:39:01,960
We have we have an US lover,
which is great.

654
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:07,320
Yeah, I love us.
I am under no like pretense that

655
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,600
us doesn't have like if you
really like think hard about it

656
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:15,760
a ton of like strange, like
world building holes in it of

657
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,880
like how does this work and how
does this work?

658
00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:21,640
But I don't honestly don't care
and I don't think Jordan Pill

659
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:27,520
does either because like really
like the suspense of this movie

660
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:32,880
and the design and the
characters, like everything

661
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,400
about it.
I just love and I love that like

662
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,960
he's like making these like
broad stroke, broad stroke, like

663
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,280
interesting philosophical
questions with what he's doing

664
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:47,960
with it that like, I don't know,
I just like everything about the

665
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:52,600
movie and I think it's still
maybe my Nope is up there.

666
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:57,560
I really appreciated Nope, Get
Out I think is good but a little

667
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,640
bit more straightforward, which
is I think can be a strong point

668
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,760
too.
But I personally enjoy the more

669
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,960
like ambiguous stuff as far as
like what is this movie about?

670
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,400
Let me dig into it.
And Us is definitely that so.

671
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:18,120
And then like Lupita and Yongo's
performance as both characters.

672
00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:23,480
Her and her like underworld
self, it's just like next level

673
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,640
phenomenal like.
I'm yeah, like if I'm ever

674
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:32,040
making a case to the Academy for
Y or should we take more

675
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,480
seriously?
It's like her performance there

676
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,800
and then Mia Goth's performances
and you know, like X or Pearl

677
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:44,240
that I guess like you have these
two, you know, women just bring

678
00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:47,080
their age.
Like what do you, you know, why

679
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:48,960
are they not being recognized in
this way?

680
00:40:49,240 --> 00:40:51,880
So it's funny.
Because the reality is that

681
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,560
like, horror movies is one of
the things that keeps like

682
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,000
theaters alive.
It doesn't matter if a horror

683
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:03,120
movie is good or bad.
Like people go see horror movies

684
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,400
in the theater.
So it's funny that like The

685
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,560
Academy Is like just totally
ignores the whole genre

686
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,400
basically.
It will it's interesting because

687
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,600
I was seeing that, you know, the
new Exorcist movie that's coming

688
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,040
out.
I guess as we're recording this

689
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,280
now, it would be coming out this
week.

690
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,960
So October 7th like it's gotten
some it's getting hit hard

691
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,880
critically like it's or October
6th.

692
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,560
It's not going to do it doesn't
like it got like a, you know,

693
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,920
critically it's not doing well,
but it's still slated to like

694
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:37,760
open to like a 51 million plus I
think like, Oh yeah, debut.

695
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,240
So it's like, yeah, as you said,
these horror movies are critic

696
00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:43,520
proof, you know, like people
just want to go for a for a good

697
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,760
time.
So doesn't matter if it's bad or

698
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,960
good.
And, and there is a sense in

699
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:52,840
which, like, I don't know, I was
listening to something recently,

700
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,720
I can't remember what it was a
podcast, but I don't remember

701
00:41:55,720 --> 00:41:59,320
which one, where they were kind
of saying like, it's it's a kind

702
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:03,280
of this weird thing about horror
movies where like, it's both

703
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:07,720
true that it's the best thing
ever to go watch a horror movie

704
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,680
in a crowded theater, but also,
like the best thing ever to,

705
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,800
like, curl up on your couch
alone in the dark and watch a

706
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,160
horror movie.
Like, both of those things are

707
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,200
like, both true.
And I was like, yeah, that is

708
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:22,360
true.
Like, yeah.

709
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,800
Yeah, that's that was that was a
really.

710
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,960
Fun draft.
I need to do more along these

711
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:31,560
lines where you have.
Like that was great.

712
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,240
Different categories I think.
I was going to name a couple of

713
00:42:35,240 --> 00:42:41,400
honorable mentions I wanted to
shout out one that I think some

714
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:46,200
people would say is not horror,
but I put it in the horror

715
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,520
category because I think it
follows a lot of horror tropes

716
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,600
with Alien.
I would say Alien is a sci-fi

717
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,720
horror.
I think some people disagree.

718
00:42:56,720 --> 00:43:02,760
But yeah, Alien, I mentioned Get
Out I think is a great movie.

719
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,840
Hereditary I think is very good.
You know, Toni Collette's

720
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,840
performance is like another
example of what you were talking

721
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,960
about.
Like this deserves an Oscar.

722
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:19,200
I personally do like the
original Paranormal Activity.

723
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,080
I think it's fun.
It's like it's funny.

724
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,720
It's surprisingly funny,
especially in the first portion.

725
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,600
And then like, it just does some
really like well crafted jump

726
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,200
scare and like that sort of
thing.

727
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,000
And and it's probably like a
nostalgia thing.

728
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:41,120
I I went and saw it like opening
night in a crowded theater with

729
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:41,840
a friend.
Yeah.

730
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:43,840
And like, I have memories of
that.

731
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:48,160
Another another one that I feel
like was really overlooked. 20

732
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:52,680
the 2020 The Invisible Man with
yeah, Elisabeth Moss.

733
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,160
It was phenom.
Also in US, right?

734
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,840
Yeah, Yeah, she's great.
Yeah, that one's directed by Lee

735
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,640
Whannell, who hasn't done a
whole lot, but yeah, that one

736
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,200
was phenomenal.
And one from this year that I

737
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,800
that I've mentioned in a past
episode is a skinnamarink I

738
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,120
really enjoyed.
It's kind of one of those that

739
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,640
it's hard for me to like
recommend because I think like

740
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,440
it's going to be like, either
you absolutely hate this or

741
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,080
really love it like I did.
Yeah.

742
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,200
And yeah, I don't know if you've
seen it and where you stand,

743
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:24,640
but.
I have not seen it.

744
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,760
And it's like for that reason
where I'm like some people,

745
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,440
they're like, they just found
this the most madding thing

746
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:31,160
ever.
Yeah.

747
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,440
And I'm just this is one of
those like insert cinema is so

748
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,240
back memes, right?
But I'm just like, it's one of

749
00:44:37,240 --> 00:44:40,800
those like, oh, can I, can I sit
through something like that?

750
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,600
Maybe I've heard good things
from people I trust like you,

751
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,680
you know, and others.
So I'm like maybe it is worth it

752
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,480
but.
It it's I think it's one it

753
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:53,000
might be the biggest like
differential between the actual

754
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,000
like letterbox score and what I
rated it from.

755
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:00,320
Like all my movies.
It has a 2.9 on letterbox which

756
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,640
generally movies that fall below
3 tend to stick stay away from.

757
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:09,120
But I I rated it 4 out of five.
I really enjoyed it.

758
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,240
The night of the living dead.
Great.

759
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,480
Classic a blind spot for me, but
I've heard things about that. 1,

760
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:20,360
the there's two Nosferatu's that
I think are both phenomenal, the

761
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:27,640
original 19 version and Mourner
Herzog's version from 1979 is

762
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:33,400
really, really good too.
Yeah, those are, I guess those

763
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:39,040
are some I could go on because
they're, you know, I have a big

764
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,600
list of horror movies that I
have ranked on Letterbox.

765
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,200
But yeah.
What kind of stuff did you have

766
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,960
any maybe a couple that you
wanted to shout out?

767
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:52,320
Yeah, no, it I will say it's
because I know Robert Eggers is

768
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:56,280
doing a Nosferatu remake.
So maybe once once I see a

769
00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:00,520
trailer product or press photos
that'll be like OK I gotta want

770
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:05,600
do my Nosferatu catch up before.
I the original is like is

771
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:10,560
surprisingly like very eerie and
like effective.

772
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,960
OK.
Like when you look at like

773
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,560
stills of it, you're like, oh,
this is really cheesy.

774
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,080
But when you actually watch it,
you're like wow, how did he make

775
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:26,440
this like cheesy looking dude be
so like effectively like creepy

776
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:30,000
and eerie?
Yeah, no, that's great.

777
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:31,560
I've I'll keep an eye for that.
Yeah.

778
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,360
I, you know, honestly, I feel
like in the monster category, I

779
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,120
were the most honorable mentions
there because I really enjoyed

780
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:44,600
the there's this 2019 film by
Alexandre Aha called Crawl.

781
00:46:44,720 --> 00:46:51,640
It's a like a it's a yeah, about
a, a swimmer and her dad and

782
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:56,240
they're trapped in their house
in Florida that's about to, you

783
00:46:56,240 --> 00:46:58,400
know, get hit by a hurricane and
they have to fight off

784
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,760
crocodiles.
And it's just like, I don't

785
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,440
know, I just really, was it
crocodiles or is it?

786
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,200
Alligators, I think it was.
It is alligators.

787
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:06,280
Yeah.
Alligators.

788
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,760
Yeah, but I thought that was so
fun.

789
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,040
Actually, that has the whole
place in my heart 'cause that's

790
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,840
the first movie I locked that
letterbox.

791
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:17,480
So it's like, OK, back in 2019
it was like, you know, crawl.

792
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,920
It was the first thing I did.
So maybe there's some nostalgia

793
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,840
bias there, but I love I mean,
and this one probably doesn't

794
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,160
count as horror even though like
maybe generally the franchises

795
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:32,640
they're similar with Alien, but
I thought the Prey movie for the

796
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:38,000
the Predator, like yeah, film
set and like I thought that was

797
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,160
so fun.
Very well done.

798
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,640
Not once again, I thought that
was great.

799
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,080
And then, yeah, I think there's
just two more.

800
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:49,160
I think for psychological
Rebecca Hall's film The

801
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:54,320
Resurrection, that was also with
Tim Roth, but thought that was

802
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,520
very yeah, I don't know.
It was, you know, a lot of

803
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,920
movies these days, you know,
horror movies, the schtick is

804
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,440
like it's about trauma, you
know, like that.

805
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,920
It's like a meme in a way.
But the way I will just say the

806
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:10,360
way she she doesn't does a great
performance there, the way she

807
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,560
embodies and explores out the
theme.

808
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,480
She didn't direct her or
anything, but I think she's the

809
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,360
producer, executive producer on
it.

810
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,960
But I really enjoyed her
performance there exploring that

811
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,280
theme.
And then what is one more

812
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,480
Annihilation?
The Alex?

813
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,760
Garland is fantastic.
So good.

814
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,520
That was actually one of the on
that article that you'll link in

815
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:31,840
the show notes.
That was one of their

816
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,760
recommendations for
Miscellaneous.

817
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,720
And I was like, Oh yeah, that
one, you know, demon bear that

818
00:48:37,720 --> 00:48:40,320
mimics human voice.
Like that's, that's yeah.

819
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,680
Nightmare fuel right there.
It is.

820
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,320
I'll, I'll.
That'll fit in very nicely, so.

821
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,080
It's funny for that one, Like, I
saw that and I was like

822
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:54,080
Annihilations and I was like,
yeah, I guess it is horror, but

823
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,440
that I didn't really put it on
my list because I was like, I

824
00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:00,600
don't usually think about that
as a horror movie.

825
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,520
Yeah.
Because like especially like the

826
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:08,840
way it ends, it like reads way
more as a sci-fi movie to me

827
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,560
than a horror movie.
But but I can definitely see how

828
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,280
like you could definitely say
like, Oh well, it's still a

829
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:15,240
horror movie.
Yeah.

830
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,080
Yeah, I think, I think that I
did.

831
00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:20,920
I had two more that I forgot to
mention.

832
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,520
You mentioned trauma and I was
like, Oh yeah.

833
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:29,160
I didn't mention my other choice
for for slasher that I was

834
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,920
trying to decide between.
I really like a nightmare on Elm

835
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,120
Street.
I think I think it's really well

836
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,280
done.
It's a it's the whole like dream

837
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,320
world thing.
Maybe is like inconsistent how

838
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,160
it works.
But I mean, it's a dream world.

839
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:45,960
Who says it has to be
consistent?

840
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:51,000
But I feel like it's a actually
like a clever work around to

841
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:55,640
like how these like, killers
usually like get around way too

842
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,960
quickly in these movies.
And it's like, well, he's a

843
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,120
dream.
So like, of course he can pop up

844
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:02,720
anywhere.
There we go.

845
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,600
But but yeah, I think Nightmare
on Elm Street is good.

846
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,880
And I would actually like I
would.

847
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:14,360
My experience of David Lynch's
Eraserhead was very much a

848
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:18,600
horror experience.
My skin was crawling that whole

849
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:19,960
movie.
Wow.

850
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,520
Yeah, it's a very disturbing
movie in my opinion.

851
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,920
Yeah, but yeah, I'll, I'll read
through the final list.

852
00:50:32,240 --> 00:50:38,760
Zachary took Possessor and Gore,
The Ninety 1992 Candy Man and

853
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:43,280
Slasher, The Evil Dead and
Paranormal, Green Room and

854
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:48,600
psychological, Bones and All and
Miscellaneous, Barbarian and

855
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:52,280
Monster and Malignant.
For his wild card.

856
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:57,480
I went with Psycho and
Psychological, The Blair Witch

857
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:02,080
Project in Miscellaneous,
Frankenstein and Monster, The

858
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:07,280
Thing in Gore, The Witch in
Paranormal, The Texas Chainsaw

859
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,800
Massacre and Slasher and US for
my wild card.

860
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:15,640
And I think we built a pretty
great list of horror movies

861
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:16,520
here.
Together.

862
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,120
I know I'm so excited to see the
the people chime in there.

863
00:51:21,240 --> 00:51:23,320
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, that'll be fun.

864
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,760
But yeah, that's that's our
movie draft.

865
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,080
I hope you enjoyed that movie
draft.

866
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:33,520
I know I enjoyed it a lot back
when I did it and so.

867
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,360
Yeah, a lot of great.
Movies a lot of great

868
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,720
recommendations that maybe if
you haven't gotten around to

869
00:51:38,720 --> 00:51:41,160
enough spooky movies, today's
the last day.

870
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,600
Obviously you can watch them
whenever you want, but if you

871
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:47,200
want to watch them during the
spooky season, today is the last

872
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,880
day.
So maybe choose one of those and

873
00:51:50,240 --> 00:51:54,840
have a good spooky.
Evening watching one, but yeah,

874
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,080
that that.
That probably pretty much

875
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,320
concludes the episode.
Like I said, be on the lookout

876
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,120
for what's coming next.
It might be a Spielberg epilogue

877
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,560
episode.
It might be something else.

878
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,800
I'm not really sure.
I'm trying to plan that out and

879
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,840
at this point I don't know.
But you will know when it comes

880
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:15,840
out because you'll see it.
So enjoy that and I'll hopefully

881
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,520
be announcing the next director.
I'm going to do.

882
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,120
It will probably be next year
before we get to that, but but

883
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:26,280
I'm excited about it.
And so yeah, it's been a great

884
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,040
journey going through these
first 3 directors.

885
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,200
Looking forward to wrapping up
Spielberg with the epilogue and

886
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,880
his movie next year.
At some point, we're going to be

887
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needing to do an episode on the
Phoenician scheme, a Wes

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Anderson's movie that came out
this year.

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So that'll be on the docket for
some point.

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So we've got a lot of things
kind of in the works.

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But like I said this, the
podcast might be slowing down a

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little bit, how you might see
episodes a little less frequent,

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frequently for a while, but just
keep tuned in, keep subscribed,

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and we will be seeing you soon.
That's it for this episode.

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I've been Eli Price and you've
been listening to The

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Establishing Shop.
We will see you next time.

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Be here for a little while.
But look, I figure it this way,

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better to be king for a night
than smoke for a lifetime.