Horror Subgenre Movie Draft (w/ Zachary Lee)

Eli (00:01.816)
Hello and welcome to the establishing shot of podcast where we do deep dives into directors and their filmography's I am your host Eli Price and we are here on episode 117 of the podcast It is a bit of a different kind of season in the podcast I Do still have to wrap up the Spielberg series with the epilogue episode

And I believe last episode I said that was going to be this episode, but I lied so sorry about that I am going to be getting around to recording that episode soon. So hopefully that will be the next episode And then you'll probably see that we will take a break Maybe for the rest of the year. I haven't really decided if I'm gonna release anything else yet I might do kind of a recap on the century so far

kind of go through, my maybe top 21 movies of the 21st century so far, do something like that, just for fun. And so we'll see if I get around to that. Hopefully I will, but if not, then life is just being life. And yeah, I, you know, I'll get around to it if I can. life is pretty crazy right now. And so the podcast is going.

Getting a little slower for me right now. So I hope you keep listening. I hope you keep tuned in to what we're up to. In the meantime, if you would like to go leave a review, that would help the visibility of the podcast a ton. Maybe share your favorite episode on whatever social media you use. That would help a lot too. But yeah, those Apple and Spotify ratings and reviews help a ton. So I would.

Really appreciate if you can do that. Yeah, so this episode, it is Halloween. So happy Halloween to everyone out there. We are going to be releasing a movie draft that we did in conjunction with, I think it was in the episode for The Dark Knight Rises. It didn't really have anything to do with The Dark Knight Rises.

Eli (02:22.138)
it just happened to be spooky season during that episode. And so we did this, draft. so, my guess for that draft was Zachary Lee. You can find his work. he does a lot of writing for rogerebert.com, amongst other publications. I believe he is a part of the Chicago critics, whatever their, kind of critic group is called.

Now, so Zachary is awesome guy. I always enjoy having him on but yeah, so this is gonna be a horror sub-genre draft. So we take the various sub-genres of horror and draft movies. We have to have one for each sub-genre category. And so I'll explain that as we get into the episode. yeah, I hope you enjoy this episode and enjoy mine and Zachary's choices. But yeah, let's get into that.

Eli Price (03:27:23.363)
Oh, yeah, I appreciate it. But yeah, I kind of hinted at it earlier, but we've got a really fun movie draft. It's going to be different than any movie draft we've done before. So I hope we can both figure this out and do it how I've planned it in my mind. But yeah.

Zachary Lee (03:27:30.001)
Mm-hmm.

Zachary Lee (03:27:44.121)
Yeah, in life. Yep, yep.

Eli Price (03:27:52.035)
We'll pick like a category or a topic that is in a movie. And we'll just kind of go back and forth and draft movies that fall into that category. But this time, I wanted to do something related to horror, where in October, I couldn't think of a good movie draft relating to Dark Knight Rises necessarily, because we've already done the DC one. We've done the villains draft.

In the Dark Knight episode and so I was like man, what are we gonna do? and I was like, well, it's Coming to the end of October when this is releasing and so let's do a horror movie draft of some sort. So we kind of decided that we would do a horror sub-genre draft and so Basically what we're gonna do I found an article by no film school that

I can link it in the show notes if anyone's interested. But it kind of breaks down the subgenres of horror, probably not like all of the subgenres, but like the main ones. And so it has like main categories, and then like sub, main subgenres, and then like subgenres within the subgenre. And uh.

Zachary Lee (03:29:03.397)
the man was.

Eli Price (03:29:16.419)
in that article. But we're going to go with the main subgenres. So we're going to basically, what we're going to do is still the same concept. We want to draft the best team of movies so that we can win the votes when it goes public. But what we're going to do instead of just going back and forth and drafting from a big pool of movies, we're going to have to draft one movie in each of these subgenres.

Zachary Lee (03:29:29.217)
Yeah, there we go.

Zachary Lee (03:29:44.037)
There we go.

Eli Price (03:29:45.403)
And so we don't have to draft the genres in a particular order, but we do have to fill one movie per category. And so I'm going to list these categories so that everyone can know what they are. They are psychological horror, killer or slasher horror, gore or disturbing horror.

monster horror, paranormal, and then miscellaneous, which miscellaneous kind of covers stuff that doesn't necessarily fit into that other stuff. So when you can think of like there's horror comedy or there's like found footage horror and a few other like kind of like sub-genres that maybe don't necessarily fit into those others, those all fall under miscellaneous.

Zachary Lee (03:30:33.622)
Mm-hmm.

Zachary Lee (03:30:41.989)
Yep.

Eli Price (03:30:42.123)
And then I figured too we could get a wild card so that we could get an extra favorite in there. So that's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. Seven choices that we've got to make there, seven movies. So yeah, I hope everyone is following what we're doing here. I hope I explained it clearly.

Zachary Lee (03:30:47.685)
There we go.

Zachary Lee (03:31:08.625)
It's great.

Eli Price (03:31:10.883)
Basically, we've got to draft one horror movie from each of these subgenres. And yeah. Um, so Zachary is going to kick it off with the first pick. Um, where are you going to go? There's, there's some extra strategy here cause you want to get the best films, but you also want to like figure out which category you want to put it in. Yeah.

Zachary Lee (03:31:31.621)
I know, right? And I will say it's interesting because I like, you know, per my chicken run story from earlier this episode, I think I was not big into the horror genre until honestly, I'd say last year, maybe the little bit the year before. So a lot of my horror watches are newer. So I don't know if that, I'm curious to see though how that'll work in my favor for the listeners of the...

Eli Price (03:31:40.536)
Yeah.

Eli Price (03:31:54.104)
Yeah, that's great though.

Zachary Lee (03:32:02.102)
established and shot podcasts if they're more traditional old-school horror film loyalists or they're down with the modern stuff too so we'll see how it lands.

Eli Price (03:32:11.531)
Yeah, it'll be a learning experience for me too, because I have no idea.

Zachary Lee (03:32:16.577)
Yeah, no, we're testing the feelers out, you know, for the doing some crowdsourcing info here. Um, that yeah, you know, I'll go, you know, I'll just go straight for the, for the gnarly, the gore disturbing film, you know, just because, you know, why not dive? Actually, wait, sorry, to me, can you cut that and go back? I realized maybe it's better. I should say the film first, and then I'll do the segment. Is that better? Or like,

Eli Price (03:32:19.332)
Yeah.

Eli Price (03:32:32.961)
Okay.

Eli Price (03:32:44.71)
It doesn't matter to me.

Zachary Lee (03:32:46.357)
Okay cool, you know what, I'll just do it, I'll just repeat it, it'll be fine. Sorry, I was, I think in my mind I was like, oh should I say the film first and then do the genre?

Eli Price (03:32:55.467)
No, I think either way is fine if you want to tease it with the category first or just go straight into the movie. It doesn't matter either way. It doesn't matter either way to me. No worries.

Zachary Lee (03:33:04.213)
Oh, go straight into it. Okay, cool, great. Sorry again for that. Yeah, hope this won't be too tough to edit out in the later part of it. But yeah, no, for my first pick, I'll go in line with the newer films. I'll go with Brandon Cronenberg's Possessor. So this was released in 2020. And yeah, it's, I mean, disturbing body horror he takes after his dad in a lot of ways, but has his own.

Eli Price (03:33:22.647)
Okay, yeah.

Zachary Lee (03:33:33.945)
you know, twisted take on it. I think Andrea Risenborough, right? And then Christopher Abbott are in it and phenomenal, great stuff. And so I'll slot that into the gore, disturbing film category for my first pick. So yeah.

Eli Price (03:33:50.315)
Yeah, yeah, I haven't seen that one. I'm trying to think too, like if I've seen any Cronenberg of him or his dads, I don't know that I have. It's just one of those kind of like, I don't have like an expansive like horror genre, like knowledge either.

Like I've tried to catch up with more and more over the years, but, um, but yeah, I don't, I don't think the Cronenbergs are, I don't think I've seen any of them. So yeah, that's definitely a blind spot for me. Um.

Zachary Lee (03:34:28.953)
Honestly, you will probably sleep better. I'm not, it's like, I like, once again, I can appreciate the film for the themes it has and it's trying to say, but it's one of those like, well, I guess I'll have to wrestle with my soul for a little bit now, having seen this. It's, yeah, but you know, curious.

Eli Price (03:34:31.823)
Ha ha

Eli Price (03:34:37.804)
Yeah.

Eli Price (03:34:43.775)
Yeah.

Eli Price (03:34:50.252)
Yeah, I caught up with a particular film this past week knowing that this was coming and feeling like, oh, I should watch this. And I feel like I would have slept better if I would have left it alone. But we'll see if I drafted at some point. I'm going to go with probably what I think is one of the just...

Zachary Lee (03:35:07.887)
Yeah.

Eli Price (03:35:17.243)
probably one of the most iconic horror movies. I'm gonna go with Psycho and the psychological horror. I mean, it's right there in the name of the movie, the genre. I just feel like Psycho and Hitchcock, for one, it's a master class in suspense building. And like, yeah.

Zachary Lee (03:35:25.293)
Mm-hmm. There we go.

Zachary Lee (03:35:30.294)
It's perfect.

Eli Price (03:35:47.53)
that psychological horror of...

just what's going on with old Bates and his mom. Like, yeah, it's very disturbing. So I just think it's, yeah, to me, it's a masterclass of suspense by the master of suspense, Alfred Hitchcock. So yeah, go psycho and...

Zachary Lee (03:35:58.745)
There we go.

Zachary Lee (03:36:14.915)
course.

Eli Price (03:36:17.664)
There are some really good ones I had written down for that category. So it was kind of hard to choose. But yeah, that's what I'm going to go with.

Zachary Lee (03:36:24.321)
Yeah, there we go. That's great. Yeah, I'll, ooh, okay, let me see here. Seeing you, you went out swinging with that one. So now I'm like, ooh, I gotta think about these other categories now. I'll go with, okay, so next film, older film. So one of the, I think probably, no, actually it might not be the oldest, maybe second oldest title that's on here for me. Also, near addition to my heart, as I saw it,

Eli Price (03:36:37.883)
Ha ha ha.

Zachary Lee (03:36:54.565)
I saw it for the first time this year, but I saw its sequel first and then I saw it. So I don't know if that was the right way to do it, but it is the 1992 film Candyman. So I, yeah, I saw it for the first time at a small arts theater in DC when I was staying there. And yeah, I mean, you know, and I love Nia DaCosta's film from a couple of years ago. I thought it was great. And you know, being from Chicago.

Eli Price (03:37:00.371)
Okay.

Eli Price (03:37:06.264)
Yeah!

Eli Price (03:37:20.027)
Mm-hmm.

Zachary Lee (03:37:22.645)
and having witnessed the gentrification and changing of the Cabrini Green neighborhood, a lot of the film really stuck to me. But I think, I don't know, I just, in similar themes of what we were talking about, Eli, in the podcast about generational sin and trauma and violence and what it looks like to have it, and like, you know, privileged people and like the way they like want to co-opt or turn.

Eli Price (03:37:31.461)
Yeah.

Eli Price (03:37:38.22)
Mm-hmm.

Zachary Lee (03:37:51.329)
other people suffering into a thesis or a project, and I don't know what they unleash with that. I feel like very timely and relevant and still very scary and fits neatly in the slasher genre, which is where I'll place my pick there for the next film. So yeah, so Candyman, the 1992, the first one that came out.

Eli Price (03:37:55.605)
Yeah.

Eli Price (03:38:05.717)
Yeah.

Eli Price (03:38:15.543)
Yeah, that was on my list for Slasher. I don't know if I would have drafted it, but necessarily because I have one or two more that I like a little bit more. But yeah, that is, I think that's probably one of my top Slasher films for sure. It's great. Yeah, I did see the kind of, I guess it's kind of like a, I guess it's a sequel.

Zachary Lee (03:38:35.343)
Yeah.

Zachary Lee (03:38:45.89)
Yeah, spiritual sequel. Yeah, I don't know. F sequel, yeah.

Eli Price (03:38:47.712)
It feels like half reboot, half sequel. Because it's, yeah. But yeah, it was okay. I thought it was really well made. I didn't like some of the choices, but yeah, the original 92 version is very good. And like, some, yeah, just really good disturbing filmmaking.

Zachary Lee (03:38:57.051)
Yeah.

Zachary Lee (03:39:16.481)
Yeah, exactly.

Eli Price (03:39:16.663)
going on in it. So yeah. Okay. Okay, this is playing out interesting because like, I feel like I can wait on ones that you've already drafted on categories, because you've already drafted in them. But then again, like you can draft, you might be able to draft a movie, you know, in a category, because some of them fit into multiple.

Zachary Lee (03:39:24.514)
Yeah.

Zachary Lee (03:39:30.658)
Yeah.

Zachary Lee (03:39:43.561)
Right, that was what was fun and interesting is like, oh, where do they like slot and finish? Like I could put, you know, I don't know, like Candyman into like, was that partly psychological? I don't know, you know, things like that. So yeah, or Monster even if you think about it in a way.

Eli Price (03:39:46.115)
Yeah.

Eli Price (03:39:55.353)
Yeah.

Eli Price (03:39:58.991)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's true. OK, where am I going to go here?

Eli Price (03:40:07.779)
You know, I think...

Eli Price (03:40:13.347)
I think I am gonna go ahead and just draft my favorite, I think what I would say is like my favorite horror movie ever in the miscellaneous category because it's a found footage film and that is the Blair Witch Project. I love the Blair Witch Project. It is like so creepy, so disturbing and like.

Zachary Lee (03:40:26.629)
There we go.

Zachary Lee (03:40:31.289)
Hmm. There we go.

Eli Price (03:40:42.675)
even just like the mythos around it of like people like thinking it was real when they saw it and like back in the day like yeah I just think it's like a really like a really good like piece of horror filmmaking but really just like a unique phenomena of like filmmaking in general in general terms so

Yeah, the Blair Witch Project, which was 99. It was in that very strong year of 1999. So, but yeah, I'll put it in miscellaneous, which covers the found footage genre.

Zachary Lee (03:41:18.213)
Wow, okay.

Zachary Lee (03:41:23.258)
We love it.

in miscellaneous.

Sure, no that's great. I have not seen that, but it's, you know, reputation precedes it, so I'm just very much, it's one that I wanna kinda get to soon. Yeah, okay, interesting. All right, so miscellaneous category there. I honestly, I thought you were gonna say like paranormal activity initially or something like that. I don't know, I don't even know if that's like shot in found footage or a horror world, which wouldn't, no, no diss to those films, but.

Eli Price (03:41:36.3)
Mm-hmm.

Eli Price (03:41:52.559)
Ha ha ha.

Zachary Lee (03:41:58.777)
I was like, oh yeah, Player Witch, like the revolutionary found footage horror film. Like, of course that would be, that would be awkward. Oh, this is tough. I, okay, now I'm like, like double checking. Like is this even?

Eli Price (03:42:02.995)
Right.

Zachary Lee (03:42:18.065)
Does it even count? I might come back to that later. I'll go with, okay, so in the vein of Blair Witch and found footage technique, maybe it applies. So I have another film in preparation for the sequel that came out this year to the film, which is what I found. I feel like all these legacy sequels are giving me an excuse to like.

the OGs for the first time, like, you know, things like that. But I'm going to go with the 81, the Evil Dead film for next pick. And, you know, we're talking about found footage, that sorts of thing. I don't know, I feel like not so much can be said about the fun camera angles that are there, you know, like, I think the way it's it embodies such an off kilter sort of

Eli Price (03:42:49.285)
Yeah.

Eli Price (03:43:09.764)
Mm-hmm.

Zachary Lee (03:43:16.289)
you know, ambiance and personality to it. I mean, it even goes further with like the second one. The whole tree stuff, I will caveat, I'm not a big fan of that. I don't really know what the whole point of that was in this movie. But as far as paranormal, which is where this falls under goes, I've really I don't know. It's like it's one of those films where like it's it could be miscellaneous because it's also very funny, but it's.

Eli Price (03:43:18.52)
Yeah.

Eli Price (03:43:44.94)
Mm-hmm.

Zachary Lee (03:43:45.857)
I don't know, like classic like cabin, friends, horror, like, you know, there's this like, there's no going back. You just have to fight them. There's a dread element that's there. I enjoyed that. So I'll go with Evil Dead for my paranoid.

Eli Price (03:44:00.507)
Paranormal, okay. Yeah, that's actually another blind spot that like, it's one of those that like, I probably, I might end up watching it this October sometime. It's one that I've always wanted to get around to. And I know for sure there's one of my friends that like loves like Sam Raimi horror. And so like you might've won a vote with that one for sure.

Zachary Lee (03:44:13.998)
Yeah.

Zachary Lee (03:44:29.753)
There we go. I've got one vote potentially, maybe.

Eli Price (03:44:36.694)
Okay, so I think I know, I think at this point in the draft, like my strategy is pretty set. I'm going to...

Zachary Lee (03:44:46.513)
tested.

Eli Price (03:44:50.263)
I'm gonna go ahead and draft a movie that I caught up with, I think, last year or the year before, a classic horror movie in Frankenstein, the original Frankenstein, I wanna say 1931 in the monster category. I was like, honestly,

Honestly, I was watching some of these older monster movies because I was like, oh, I want to catch up with some of these classics. It was kind of like a more homework kind of endeavor. And I was actually blown away by Frankenstein. Like, the set pieces and stuff are definitely of its time, but somehow hold up and fit the atmosphere.

And then like the just the ideas that are being dealt with about humanity, what makes a human human, is really interesting. And like, even like there's moments of like, like really deep emotional like resonance in this movie that like totally caught me off guard.

Zachary Lee (03:45:57.136)
Yeah.

Zachary Lee (03:46:12.622)
Yeah.

Eli Price (03:46:15.819)
And so it's become one of my personal favorites. And so yeah, I'm doing, yeah, Frankenstein and Monster.

Zachary Lee (03:46:20.622)
Yeah.

Zachary Lee (03:46:26.489)
Which, what year was that one again? I know there's a couple, 31. Okay, great. I'm adding it to another blind spot, but the poster is classic, you know? And like, I feel like I've seen.

Eli Price (03:46:28.919)
1931. Yeah.

Eli Price (03:46:37.259)
Yeah, it honestly like it honestly blew me away. I was not expecting to love it as much as I did like I finished it and I was like man, that's I think I have it rated like a four and a half star Like so yeah

Zachary Lee (03:46:53.761)
Yeah, fantastic, great. Yeah, well, this is me just desperately trying to form connections and bounce off of between our picks. But I know it's a black and white film. Am I remembering that correctly? Okay. But in my mind, Frankenstein is always portrayed with some elements of green on, or Frankenstein, I pour some in the classroom, we say Frankenstein's monster is always portrayed with some elements of green on.

Eli Price (03:47:07.02)
Yes.

Eli Price (03:47:15.786)
Yeah.

Eli Price (03:47:20.334)
Right.

Zachary Lee (03:47:23.173)
And so that ties in nicely for my next pick, which is the 2015 film Green Room. So that was, who was that? Jeremy Saulnier is the director for that. It was another A24 film. So, you know, you kind of know what you're getting there, but it, I, man, I saw this for the first time last year, also on Hulu, which shout out Hulu. They have some great films just on there, both the original content and they're just the ones that they get.

Eli Price (03:47:31.566)
Okay.

Eli Price (03:47:39.055)
Mm-hmm.

Zachary Lee (03:47:53.021)
I, it's, it's about a kind of a punk band that travel are doing shows and then they end up doing this one show, which ends up being this bar where these neo-Nazis hang out, which is led by, was it Patrick Stewart as like the head neo-Nazi, which was just like, I don't know, played against hype for him. I'm just used to seeing him being like, you know, the elegant Professor X or Picard and he's like dropping f-bombs and like.

Eli Price (03:48:12.047)
Okay.

Eli Price (03:48:19.149)
Yeah.

Zachary Lee (03:48:22.273)
saying questionable things all the time. So definitely different. And it's about their like fight to survive, I guess. And, you know, I don't know. It was, it's just like, you know, from the get-go, it's just very like tightly paced. I'm like double checking the Wiki here, but I think it's like, yeah, 95 minutes, you know? So it's like already great timing choice. It's like frenetically paced, brutal, I think.

Eli Price (03:48:31.553)
Mm-hmm.

Eli Price (03:48:44.153)
Yeah.

Zachary Lee (03:48:51.897)
you know, very much like gets in your head too. Cause you know, so I'm slanting this under psychological because you're kind of like, you're in these confined areas and spaces and you're just like, how are these people going to escape? What have they gotten themselves into? I mean, sadly, very prescient commentary about, you know, alt-right, you know, extremists, or extremists of any sort of, you know, political party being in a space and how you...

Eli Price (03:48:58.934)
Okay.

Eli Price (03:49:14.488)
Yeah.

Eli Price (03:49:19.911)
Mm-hmm.

Zachary Lee (03:49:21.677)
You know, how do you fight that? And you know, for some people it's not to get too graphic, it's you take a box cutter to the stomach and that's how you win. But like, is that really the way we should win for the rest of time? I don't know. So all to say, Green Room, 2015 film, I was my pick for Psycho-Log.

Eli Price (03:49:29.581)
Yeah.

Eli Price (03:49:33.231)
Yeah.

Eli Price (03:49:39.927)
Yeah, yeah, that's another one that's been like floating around on my, my watch list for a while. Um, that I just haven't gotten to. So yeah, you're really like schooling me on my watch list. Um,

Zachary Lee (03:49:52.705)
Oh, you same with me. So, yeah. Right, neutral. Yeah.

Eli Price (03:49:55.123)
Yeah, well, I guess the feeling's mutual then. Yeah, okay, so this is my fourth pick. We're starting, we're going to start for sure. You started it with your pick, but we're going to have to start overlapping our categories now. Okay, I'm going to go with...

I'm going to go ahead and go with my movie that I caught up with last year that I really, really enjoyed. It was like both fun and really disturbing, which is maybe a spoiler of the category. I'm going to go with The Thing. The Thing is it's a great movie. Yeah, John Carpenter, just kind of like

Zachary Lee (03:50:35.534)
What a comment.

Zachary Lee (03:50:40.393)
Oh, yes, yes.

Zachary Lee (03:50:45.679)
So good.

Eli Price (03:50:51.659)
It's wild. Um, uh, it's crazy that Kurt Russell is in this movie, um, of all people. Uh, but yeah, it's, yeah, I mean, I think it fits for me and the gore disturbing, there's a lot of like body horror in this movie with the way this kind of like alien creature or, or organism, I guess, like distorts, like.

Zachary Lee (03:51:11.537)
100%.

Eli Price (03:51:21.707)
uh, living objects and really weird, disturbing ways. Um, so yeah, I think it fits nicely into that, that gore and disturbing category, uh, in my personal opinion. Um, yeah, really good movie. It's like, it's one of those things where it's like, it's very disturbing and has some interesting things to say about, um, you know, what we're willing to do, uh, when like.

pressed up against the wall with fear and how we treat each other, but also it's kind of fun in a way that only horror movies can be dealing with such deep, dark issues and also be fun at the same time. So yeah.

Zachary Lee (03:52:09.383)
Exactly.

Love that. No, I also had just caught up with it last, I think one of the theaters, they were like, was it like an anniversary or something last year? I think maybe. Yeah.

Eli Price (03:52:23.095)
Maybe, let's see, yeah, 1982, so that would have been the 50th or the 40th, yeah, 40th anniversary.

Zachary Lee (03:52:31.673)
The 40th, yeah. So I thought it was, I don't know, I thought that was also good. So that's a fun one. Great, I'll, okay, let me see here. I think for, speaking of one that's like both, well as you were saying, it's like disturbing, but also, I don't know, it's entertaining, enjoyable. I think this other one.

saw last year and occupy it's one of it's another it's a similar fusion but this time of genre of like the body horror but also teen coming of age romance so it's the it's uh lucas uh films guardinho's bones and all so i think it's uh taylor russell and simothy chalamet and it focused i mean it's funny it focuses on these two

Eli Price (03:53:24.015)
Mm-hmm.

Zachary Lee (03:53:29.217)
cannibals, lovers, and their journey of trying to like navigate and build a life where, you know, they're always fighting with these impulses that they have to feed, as they say, but also, you know, it's like element of like, this is how we're made. So who are we to deny how we're made? And then also being like, but, you know, we're ruined people's lives. And what does it mean to keep appetites and desire in check? So it's like, it's a very, it's like, make no mistake, it's like a very like,

When I say cannibal movie, I'm just like, okay, I guess we're really just gonna show you just notion on somebody's head or something, you know, like it'll go there, but it's very much like a, it's a road trip movie. It's a romance movie, you know, between these characters coming of age, you know, in a way with this twist. So it's a very like, I don't know, it's like, it's one of those like, it blends those, all those genres really well. So it's kind of hard to.

Eli Price (03:54:07.545)
Yeah.

Zachary Lee (03:54:26.821)
place, you know, when I was thinking about it, I was like, is it it's gore, but it's not, you know, there's some psychological, you know, I don't know. So that's my miscellaneous bones and bones and all. So yeah.

Eli Price (03:54:36.088)
Okay.

Eli Price (03:54:39.799)
OK, cool. Yeah, I had heard good things about it. It came out last year, right? Yeah, I had definitely heard good things about it. And I haven't gotten around to seeing it myself. But yeah, it was definitely intriguing when I heard about it. I was like, oh, I might try to check this out. So I have, let's see.

Zachary Lee (03:54:46.349)
Yeah, 2022. So yeah, I think it was like November or something.

Eli Price (03:55:07.575)
We- you have two more and I have three more now. So there's the wild card which-

Eli Price (03:55:21.178)
Um... I need a slasher and I need a paranormal.

And okay, I think I know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go ahead and go with Paranormal, and I'm gonna go with Robert Eggers, The Witch. Or if you wanna have it with the two Vs, The Vivich. Ha ha ha. I.

Zachary Lee (03:55:33.721)
Yeah.

Zachary Lee (03:55:43.584)
Ah, nice.

Zachary Lee (03:55:49.965)
The bitch, there you go. That's right.

Eli Price (03:55:57.151)
This film is one that kind of has grown in my estimation. Like, I've only seen it once, like a couple years ago. But it's grown in my regard of it, ever since I've seen it. Just like, every time I think back of it, the imagery of it, it's this like... So obviously Eggers is at this point known for like...

really being obsessive about getting the period and the language and the design and everything like exactly how it was in the setting of his movie. And it's this like...

Zachary Lee (03:56:28.793)
Mm-hmm.

Zachary Lee (03:56:58.535)
Sorry, I think I cut out there. I don't know why or like it just booted me off. Yeah, but you were saying yeah design

Eli Price (03:57:03.075)
That's weird. Yeah. No worries. I'll just jump back in.

Yeah. And, you know, it's when you watch The Witch, you're very much in its world, which is an impressive thing that Eggers does. I think The Witch is probably his best film of the I think there's three so far because he has The White House and Northman also.

Zachary Lee (03:57:16.313)
Mm-hmm.

Eli Price (03:57:38.263)
And it's my favorite of those three. And the way it deals with this, like the idea of cutting yourself off from community and the dangers you open yourself up to when you do that. Even if it's maybe for like, justifiable reasons or like, you know, at the end of the day, there's a bit of.

pride that comes with not being willing to give and take with a community. It's set in early America, and I'm pretty sure it's this Puritan community or some sort of Christian community, either Puritans or...

Zachary Lee (03:58:20.612)
Yeah.

Eli Price (03:58:33.411)
something like that. And he has a disagreement with like the elders of the community and he's basically like excommunicated from it, him and his family. And then like they're on the edge of these woods. There's like strange stuff happening in the woods. Their baby goes missing. And it's just like dealing with that idea of what happens when you separate yourself from community. And like...

Zachary Lee (03:58:51.054)
Hmm

Eli Price (03:59:03.559)
what sorts of horrors might you open yourself up to by doing that. Uh, super interesting and like really like disturbing, well-made movie. Um, yeah, so I definitely recommend that one. The Witch. I'm gonna take it. Did I say paranormal for it? Yeah, Witch. It makes more sense when you watch the film why it's in the paranormal category.

Zachary Lee (03:59:21.211)
Yeah.

Zachary Lee (03:59:24.505)
Yes.

Eli Price (03:59:33.071)
but it's definitely... So you'll have to go watch it to find out why. I won't give anything away.

Zachary Lee (03:59:33.467)
Yeah, no, no.

Zachary Lee (03:59:40.991)
Yeah, I know. I feel like the AMC's near me. They're doing like thrills, like they're bringing back some of the class, like those horror movies. So I think I sadly missed that one, but I know it might be on Netflix or something. So I'll probably watch it. But that's yeah, that's a, you saying it's like a good reminder. Like, oh yeah, to catch that one. Um, okay. Yeah. Let me see here. So final two for me, I think I'll go with, so, okay. So you got the witch. I'll go, oh, I'm so torn here. I might have.

Eli Price (03:59:51.515)
Hmm.

Yeah.

Zachary Lee (04:00:10.607)
just be a game time decision. You know what, I'll go with the one I feel like I can speak more about at the moment. But it was not quite The Witch, but another, you know, there was this film, sleeper hit of last year, Barbarian. So Zach Creger directed that one. Yeah, oh, were you gonna say something, Eli, about that?

Eli Price (04:00:27.309)
Yeah.

Eli Price (04:00:31.307)
I was just going to say another like one that I have heard great things about, but I haven't gotten around to.

Zachary Lee (04:00:38.371)
Yeah, no, it's, oh, okay, it will, I will just say it is without, because I want you to be able to enjoy it without me telling the show too much. But like, it's a, there's a monster element to the film that I think what I enjoyed in particular about it, one was that it has a lot of twists and turns, you don't quite know where it's going. But it explores this idea.

I think in general, I think it's actually, or rather it fits into this canon that I've enjoyed lately of, when I think about monster movies, I've, one of the things that draws me to those types of films is this idea of like, the monsters being instruments of divine justice for the oppressed or underrepresented. And so, you know, I even think about like, I love Godzilla and I think it was very recently I learned it's like a allegory or connection, you know, with.

the atomic bomb and being dropped in Japan and everything. I guess that was there, but it was like, it's only been more recently, I've viewed those films through that social lens or sociological lens. So I'll just say without getting too into it, I think I like how Barbarian in its unique way fits into this canon. So that's my monster movie pick, I'd say. So yeah, that was released last year.

Eli Price (04:01:38.763)
Yeah.

Eli Price (04:02:02.399)
Okay, cool, yeah. Yeah, I guess we'll both maybe, it looks like we're gonna just both save our wild card for last. I'm gonna go with, yeah, I'm gonna go with the only category other than wild card that I have left is the killer slasher. This is one that I've struggled with enjoying in the past.

Zachary Lee (04:02:13.019)
For what? Yep, there we go.

Eli Price (04:02:32.211)
maybe similar with like the typical movie you think about with like the gore or body horror. But yeah, I've caught up with a few of these recently. Maybe I can mention others in honorable mentions, but I watched one recently that like shook me like to the core, I think.

It's like man, I'll it's one of those where you watch and you almost wish you didn't watch it but like our hat like but at the same time you're like man that was like phenomenal filmmaking I'm gonna go with the 74 classic of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre I Was like

Zachary Lee (04:03:07.023)
You didn't watch it.

Zachary Lee (04:03:13.92)
Hmm

Zachary Lee (04:03:22.423)
Oh, great. Have not seen, but I can understand the reaction to that.

Eli Price (04:03:31.483)
One of the things that like you don't really think about is like how sound can be horrifying and like the sounds in this movie are like It like just makes my skin crawl just like thinking about it. Um And uh, yeah, it's one of those that's like

I don't know, like there's probably more, the themes that it's dealing with are less like these deep emotional themes and more like maybe primal themes of like survival and the will to live and that sort of thing. But man, is it like a masterclass of setting like beauty in the background of like absolute.

disgusting horror, horror. Like, it's, um, cause there's scenes that you watch where there's, where if you like take out what's going on in the foreground, the background is like phenomenally beautifully shot, but then like you add back in what's going on in the foreground and you're like, oh, uh, yeah. Anyways, um, yeah, that's what I'm going with for, for Slasher.

Zachary Lee (04:04:25.688)
Oof.

Zachary Lee (04:04:41.22)
what's going on.

Zachary Lee (04:04:53.385)
No, that's a... Yeah, no, it's interesting because I think the other film that I've seen this, which I've not seen, maybe it's more pivot later, was that movie, Midsommar, which I haven't seen, but it's that same idea of beautiful backdrop with just like absolutely horrific stuff going on. So yeah, that'll be, it's like one of those things like daylight doesn't save you here, you know? You can watch this in broad daylight and you're just...

Eli Price (04:05:04.419)
Hmm.

Zachary Lee (04:05:19.003)
you're still gonna be disturbed when you watch it. Yeah. I guess for final selection, my wild card, I know this movie has its fans as well as its detractors, but I think the more I think about it, the more I love it. It's the 2021 James Wan film, Malignant.

Eli Price (04:05:21.478)
Yeah.

Zachary Lee (04:05:44.703)
So this one was, I think just, I think it got a limited release, but then really got a life on HBO Max. But it's just such a fun, like, the way, you know, you don't expect some of the twists there. I think like James did this right after, yeah, this was after he directed Aquaman, which is like a billion dollar movie. So I firmly believe, I'm like, I mean, I liked Aquaman, but I'm like, I'm even happier that Aquaman

doing so well led to James being able to have the relational capital to be like, I just want to make this for me. And you're going to pay for it Warner Bros. because guess what? I just made you a billion dollars, you know, or more. So everything Yeah, like the I don't know, it's a it's a very, I think just, it's one of those movies that is funny in this in the ways that it commits fully to the kind of bonkers.

Eli Price (04:06:27.599)
Right.

Zachary Lee (04:06:44.039)
premise, the bonkers premise and all the characters, I think Annabelle Wallace is the main actress in it, but she, I think just some of the line deliveries, like I think it's easy in certain movies to be like, you're trying to go, you know, have each line be deeper or it's a double entendre of a greater theme, but they're just like saying the line straight. It's just a very like kind of has that B movie feel to it, but with great effects and actions. So yeah.

Eli Price (04:07:09.615)
Yeah.

Zachary Lee (04:07:13.84)
Malignant, there's my wild card pick.

Eli Price (04:07:16.663)
Yeah, yeah, that's another one. Like, there's, I feel like I have like a running list of more recent, like horror movies that I just like haven't had the chance to catch up with. It's one of those things like, my wife is like, not only like, is she not interested in, she's like almost like, pretty much like anti-horror movie. Like, don't, like don't watch that in my house. So it's kind of like, it's kind of like, I'm like.

Zachary Lee (04:07:39.373)
It's.

Zachary Lee (04:07:43.245)
Right.

Eli Price (04:07:45.483)
Okay, I have to like, not talk about these movies with her at all, like not even mentioned. Uh, just cause like she's like, um, and it's not like, I don't think it's a flaw. I think it's, it's just like personality. She's just like, I'm not interested in knowing any of that stuff. Um, and I'm like, which I kind of like respect about her in a way, but also like, I really enjoy like digging into these movies and like figuring out why they're so disturbing.

Zachary Lee (04:07:50.599)
Yeah, no, no.

Zachary Lee (04:08:03.811)
No, I ain't.

Zachary Lee (04:08:12.923)
Totally.

Eli Price (04:08:15.903)
Um, and, uh, but yeah, that's, that's another one that I haven't had the chance to catch up with. Um, maybe it's because, uh, the past few octobers, I've done a lot of like catching up with older stuff and like have kind of overlooked the, um, the newer stuff. But, uh, yeah, I am going to go with something relatively newer for my wild card. It's, I guess you could say it's a, uh, a personal favorite.

Zachary Lee (04:08:29.934)
Yeah.

Zachary Lee (04:08:41.412)
Yeah.

Eli Price (04:08:46.084)
It might still be my favorite Jordan Peele movie, and it's probably not the one most people would think I'm talking about. I'm going to go with us.

Zachary Lee (04:08:59.243)
Ah, there we go. We have an us lover, which is great. Here, let's see.

Eli Price (04:09:01.054)
Um.

Eli Price (04:09:04.935)
Yeah, I love us. I am under no like pretense that us doesn't have like if you really like think hard about it a ton of like strange like world building holes in it of like how does this work and how does this work, but I don't honestly don't care. And I don't think Jordan Peele does either. um because like really like the suspense of this movie and the design and

Zachary Lee (04:09:26.075)
Cheers.

Eli Price (04:09:34.499)
the characters, like everything about it, I just love. And I love that like, he's like making these like broad stroke, broad stroke, like interesting philosophical questions with what he's doing with it. That like, I don't know, I just like everything about the movie. And I think it's still maybe my, Nope is up there. I really appreciated Nope.

Get out I think is good, but a little bit more straightforward Which is I think can be a strong point too, but I personally enjoy the more like Ambiguous Stuff as far as like what is this movie about? Let me dig into it and us is definitely that so and then like Lupita Nyong'o's performance as

Both characters, her and her underworld self, it's just next level phenomenal. Like.

Zachary Lee (04:10:39.919)
I'm, yeah. Like if I'm ever making a case to the Academy for why Horace should be taking more seriously, it's like her performance there and then Mia Goth's performances and you know, like X or Pearl that I'm just like, you have these two, you know, women just bringing their age. Like what do you, you know, why are they not being recognized in this way, so.

Eli Price (04:10:54.682)
Yeah.

Eli Price (04:11:01.796)
Yeah.

It's funny because the reality is that horror movies is one of the things that keeps theaters alive. It doesn't matter if a horror movie is good or bad, people go see horror movies in the theater. So it's funny that the Academy just totally ignores the whole genre, basically.

Zachary Lee (04:11:21.826)
Oh yeah.

Zachary Lee (04:11:30.255)
Right. It's interesting because I was seeing that, you know, the new Exorcist movie that's coming out, I guess as we're recording this now, it would be coming out this week. So October 7th, like it's gotten some, it's getting hit hard critically, like it's October 6th. It's not going to do, it doesn't look like it got like a, you know, critically, it's not doing well, but it's still slated to like open to like a 51 million plus, I think, like debut. So it's like.

Eli Price (04:11:56.729)
Oh yeah.

Zachary Lee (04:11:58.863)
Yeah, as you said, these horror movies are critic proof, you know? Like people just want to go for a good time, so it doesn't matter if it's bad or good.

Eli Price (04:12:02.155)
Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yep. And, and there is a sense in which like, um, I don't know, I was listening to something recently, I can't remember what it was, a podcast, but I don't remember which one where they were kind of saying like, it's, uh, it's a kind of this weird thing about horror movies where like, it's both true that it's the best thing ever to go watch a horror movie in a crowded theater.

but also the best thing ever to curl up on your couch alone in the dark and watch a horror movie. Both of those things are both true. And I was like, yeah, that is true. Like, yeah. But yeah, that was a really fun draft. I need to do more along these lines where you have different categories. I think...

Zachary Lee (04:12:36.018)
and

Zachary Lee (04:12:42.476)
Exactly.

Zachary Lee (04:12:55.471)
That was great.

Eli Price (04:13:01.247)
I was going to name a couple of honorable mentions. I wanted to shout out one that I think some people would say is not horror, but I put it in the horror category because I think it follows a lot of horror tropes with Alien. I would say Alien is a sci-fi horror. I think some people disagree, but yeah.

Zachary Lee (04:13:04.759)
Yes.

Zachary Lee (04:13:21.635)
Mmm, yes.

Zachary Lee (04:13:26.374)
100 percent.

Eli Price (04:13:29.687)
Um, anyway, I mentioned get out. Um, I think is a great movie. Um, hereditary I think is very good. Um, you know, Tony Collette's performance is like another example of what you were talking about, like this deserves an Oscar. Um, yeah, uh, I personally do like the original paranormal activity. Um,

Zachary Lee (04:13:38.009)
Hmm

Zachary Lee (04:13:43.439)
This is exactly.

Eli Price (04:13:59.783)
I think it's fun. It's funny, it's surprisingly funny, especially in the first portion. And then it just does some really well-crafted jump scare and that sort of thing. And it's probably a nostalgia thing. I went and saw it opening night in a crowded theater with a friend. And I have memories of that.

Zachary Lee (04:14:01.511)
Hmm.

Zachary Lee (04:14:12.027)
Yeah.

Zachary Lee (04:14:23.215)
Yeah.

Eli Price (04:14:27.071)
Another one that I feel like was really overlooked, the 2020 The Invisible Man with Elizabeth Moss, it was phenomenal. Yeah. That one's directed by Lee Wanell, who hasn't done a whole lot, but yeah, that one was phenomenal. One...

Zachary Lee (04:14:35.163)
Oh yeah, great one. Also in us, right? Yeah, and she was.

Eli Price (04:14:57.679)
One from this year that I've mentioned in a past episode is Skin of Mourink. I really enjoyed. It's kind of one of those that it's hard for me to like recommend because I think like it's going to be like either you absolutely hate this or really love it. Like I did. Um, and, uh, yeah, I don't know if you've seen it and where you stand, but.

Zachary Lee (04:15:04.074)
Yeah

Zachary Lee (04:15:15.621)
Yeah.

Zachary Lee (04:15:21.215)
I have not seen it and it's like for that reason where I'm like, some people, they're like, they just found this the most maddening thing ever. And I'm just, this is one of those like insert cinema is so back memes, right? But I'm just like, it's one of those like, Oh, can I, can I sit through something like that? Maybe I've heard good things from people I trust like you, you know, and others. So I'm like, maybe it is worth it. But yeah, it's.

Eli Price (04:15:24.268)
Yeah.

Eli Price (04:15:28.491)
Yeah.

Eli Price (04:15:33.007)
Ha ha.

Eli Price (04:15:38.86)
Yeah.

Eli Price (04:15:45.359)
It's I think it's one it might be the biggest like differential between the actual like letterbox score and what I rated it From like all my movies. It has a 2.9 on letterboxed Which generally movies that fall below 3 I tend to stick stay away from but I rated it 4 out of 5 I really enjoyed it

Zachary Lee (04:15:53.785)
Oh yeah.

Zachary Lee (04:15:58.468)
Ooh, that...

Zachary Lee (04:16:02.979)
Yeah.

Ooh, there we go, yeah.

Eli Price (04:16:10.752)
The Night of the Living Dead. Great. Classic.

Zachary Lee (04:16:12.569)
That's fantastic. A blind spot for me, but I've heard great things about.

Eli Price (04:16:16.115)
Um, mm hmm. The there's two Nosferatu's that I think are both phenomenal. The original 1922 version and, um, Warner Herzog's, um, version from 1979 is really, really good too. Um, yeah, those are, I guess those are some, I could go on. Cause there, you know, I have a big list of horror movies that I have ranked.

Um, on letterbox, but yeah, I'll kind of stop there. Did you have any, maybe a couple that you wanted to shout out?

Zachary Lee (04:16:47.759)
Yeah.

Zachary Lee (04:16:52.067)
Yeah, no, I will say it's funny, because I know Robert Eggers is doing a Nosferatu remake. So maybe once I see a trailer or product or press photos, that'll be like, okay, I gotta do my Nosferatu catch up before I see the new one.

Eli Price (04:16:58.562)
Yeah.

Eli Price (04:17:05.483)
Yeah, the original is like is surprisingly like very eerie and like effective. Um, like when you look at like stills of it, you're like, oh, this is really cheesy, but when you actually watch it, you're like, wow, how did he make this like cheesy looking dude be so like effectively like creepy and eerie?

Zachary Lee (04:17:16.561)
Mmm, okay.

Zachary Lee (04:17:33.599)
Yeah, no, that's great. I'll keep an eye for that. Yeah, you know, honestly, I feel like in the monster category, I were the most honorable mentions there, because I really enjoyed the, there's this 2019 film by Alexandre Aja called Crawl. It's like a, it's a, yeah, about a swimmer and her dad, and they're trapped in their house in Florida. That's about to.

Eli Price (04:17:44.015)
Hmm.

Zachary Lee (04:18:03.439)
you know, get hit by a hurricane and they have to fight off crocodiles. And it's just like, I don't know. I just really was a crocodiles or is it alligators? I think it is. It is alligators. I'm sorry. Yeah. But I thought that was so fun. Actually, that has the whole place in my heart because that's the first movie I locked that letterbox. It's like back in 2019, it was like, you know, crawl. It was the first thing I did. So maybe there's some nostalgic bias there. But I love I mean, and this one probably doesn't count as

Eli Price (04:18:11.043)
Yeah, I think it was a crocodile. Yeah, alligator.

Eli Price (04:18:20.88)
Okay.

Zachary Lee (04:18:32.855)
or even though like maybe generally the franchise is there similar with Alien. But I thought the Prey movie for the Predator like prequel film set and like I thought that was so fun, very well done. Not once again on Hulu, I thought that was great. And then, yeah, I think just two more. I think for psychological, Rebecca Hall's film, The Resurrection, that was also with Tim Roth, but.

Eli Price (04:18:41.36)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Eli Price (04:18:46.871)
Mm-hmm.

Zachary Lee (04:19:02.075)
Thought that was very, yeah, I don't know. It was, you know, a lot of movies these days, you know, horror movies, the shtick is like, it's about trauma, you know? Like, and then it's like a meme in a way, but the way, I'll just say the way she, she does a great performance there, the way she embodies and explores out the theme. She didn't direct or anything, but I think she was a producer, executive producer on it. But I really enjoyed her.

Eli Price (04:19:10.561)
Yeah.

Eli Price (04:19:26.532)
Mm-hmm.

Zachary Lee (04:19:31.023)
there, exploring that theme. And then what is one more? Annihilation, the Alex Garland from 2018. So good, that was actually one of the, on that article that you'll link in the show notes, that was one of their recommendations for Miscellaneous. And I was like, oh yeah, that one, you know, demon bear that mimics human voice. Like that's nightmare fuel right there. So I'll slide, that'll fit in very nicely. So yeah.

Eli Price (04:19:35.971)
Yeah, Annihilation is fantastic.

Eli Price (04:19:51.248)
Yeah. It is.

It's funny for that one, like I saw that and I was like, Annihilation? And I was like, yeah, I guess it is horror, but that, I didn't really put it on my list because I was like, I don't usually think about that as a horror movie because like, especially like the way it ends, it like reads way more as a sci-fi movie to me.

Zachary Lee (04:20:14.787)
Yeah.

Eli Price (04:20:25.935)
than a horror movie, but I can definitely see how like you could definitely say like oh well it's still a horror movie. Yeah. Yeah, I think that I did, I had two more that I forgot to mention. You mentioned trauma and I was like oh yeah, I didn't mention my other choice for Slasher that I was trying to decide between. I really like A Nightmare on Elm Street.

Zachary Lee (04:20:43.308)
Yes. No, sure.

Zachary Lee (04:20:56.566)
Mmm. Yeah.

Eli Price (04:20:57.42)
I think it's really well done. It's a, the whole like dream world thing, maybe is like inconsistent in how it works, but I mean, it's a dream world who says it has to be consistent. But I feel like it's actually like a clever workaround to like how these killers usually like get around way too quickly in these movies.

Zachary Lee (04:21:09.851)
There we go.

Eli Price (04:21:24.279)
And it's like, well, he's a dream. So like, of course he can pop up anywhere. Um, but, uh, but yeah, I think nightmare Elm street is good. And I would actually like, I would, my experience of David Lynch's eraser head was very much a horror experience. My skin was crawling that whole movie. Um, uh, yeah, it's a very disturbing movie in my opinion. Um,

Zachary Lee (04:21:28.583)
There we go.

Zachary Lee (04:21:40.323)
Oh, that's right. Mm, fair. Haven't seen, but yeah. Oh, wow.

Zachary Lee (04:21:51.636)
Interesting. Yeah.

Eli Price (04:21:54.787)
But yeah, I'll read through the final list. Zachary took Possessor in Gore, the 1992 Candyman in Slasher, the Evil Dead in Paranormal, Green Room in Psychological Bones and All in Miscellaneous, Barbarian in Monster, and Malignant for his Wildcard. I went with

Zachary Lee (04:21:59.675)
Yep.

Eli Price (04:22:24.963)
Psycho and Psychological, the Blair Witch Project and Miscellaneous, Frankenstein and Monster, The Thing and Gore, The Witch and Paranormal, the Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Slasher, and Us from a Wildcard. And I think we built a pretty great list of horror movies here together.

Zachary Lee (04:22:47.043)
Yeah, I know. I'm so excited to see the poll and hear people chime in with their other recs.

Eli Price (04:22:52.112)
Yeah, for sure. Yeah, that'll be fun. But, yeah, that's our movie draft section.

I hope you enjoyed that movie draft. I know I enjoyed it a lot back when I did it and so yeah a lot of great movies a lot of great recommendations that maybe if you haven't gotten around to enough spooky movies today's the last day.

so you can watch them whenever you want. But if you want to watch them during the spooky season, today is the last day. So maybe choose one of those and have a spooky evening watching one. But yeah, that probably pretty much concludes the episode. Like I said, be on the lookout for what's coming next. It might be a Spielberg epilogue episode. It might be something else. I'm not really sure. I'm trying to plan that out.

And at this point, I don't know, but you will know when it comes out because you'll see it. So enjoy that. And I'll hopefully be announcing the next director I'm going to do. It will probably be next year before we get to that. But but I'm excited about it. And so, yeah, it's been a great journey going through these first three directors, looking forward to wrapping up Spielberg with the epilogue and

Eli (04:43.822)
His movie next year at some point. We're gonna be needing to do an episode on the Phoenician scheme Wes Anderson's movie that came out this year, so that'll be on the docket for some point so We've got a lot of things kind of in the works But like I said the podcast might be slowing down a little bit You might see episodes a little less frequent frequently for a while, but just keep tuned in keep subscribed and We will be seeing you soon

That's it for this episode. I've been Eli Price and you've been listening to The Establishing Shot. We will see you next time.