July 11, 2025

Movie Presidents Draft (w/ Jean-Pierre Boudreaux)

Presidents are portrayed in movies in so many different ways: fictional presidents, real presidents, real presidents in a fictional role, satirical presidents, and so many more. Our movie draft this week, in which we draft both real and fictional portrayals of US presidents covers these wide varieties as we discuss what we love most about some of the best film versions of our commander in chief. This draft was in honor of our discussion of Spielberg’s Lincoln last week, so Daniel Day-Lewis’ Lincoln was ineligible (and is probably the #1 choice).



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It wasn't closely.
What's the secret?

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Thing just got to find something
you love to do and then do it

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for the rest of your life.
I don't want to be a product of

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my environment.
I want my environment to be a

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product of me.
Hello and welcome to the

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Establishing Shot, a podcast
where we do deep dives into

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directors and their
filmographies.

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I am your host Eli Price, and we
are here on episode 104 of the

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podcast, joined again by Jean
Pierre Boudreaux.

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From.
Yeah, from last week.

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You may recognize him from the
Lincoln episode where we find

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out found out that he is in fact
more man than lizard, not more

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lizard than man as House of
Representatives.

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Thaddeus Stevens.
Yeah, Thaddeus Stevens calls Old

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George Pendleton on the House
floor.

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Yeah. 2 great names, Yeah, two
really great now, and then a

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third one, Jean Pierre
Boudreaux.

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I mean, great name, you know.
Yes, thank you.

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Yeah.
JPD, you know, people, that's

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what eventually, like when you
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going to be like, Oh yeah, did
you see the new JPD, you know?

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JPB.
JPB, I'm sorry, Jelly and

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peanut.
Butter, you know.

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Yeah, that's probably what I was
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Yeah, that's wrong with like, I
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being like like if you could be
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new Jean Pierre?
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like.
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But yeah, JP, he is well
decorated on the podcast, been

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on many times before, so we'll
skip the introductions.

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You can go listen to past
episodes to hear more about him.

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And we'll get right into it
because this week, you know, we,

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we do deep dives into directors
in their filmographies, but we

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also do fun, you know, fun,
exciting episodes in between

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those.
So we're doing a movie draft

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today.
We're doing movie presidents.

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So this is going to be a fun
one.

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Now some ground rules for this
draft.

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We, we kind of talked about it
and we decided since there is 2

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categories of movie presidents,
there's real presidents

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represented in movies and then
there's fake presidents, I guess

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for lack of a better term, in
movies.

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Fictional I guess would be the
better way to say it, fictional

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presidents and non fiction
presidents.

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So we're going to actually,
instead of just lumping them all

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together, we're going to require
that we draft 3 each from each

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of those from the real
presidents and from the

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fictional ones.
So we don't have to do them in

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any sort of order so we can.
Draft.

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All of our real ones are all of
our fake ones.

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Are say we should do our our mix
it up for presidents 1st and

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then we'll do, we'll do.
That no, I think we just mix it

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up.
OK, all right, fun everyone.

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Take who you want to take, when
you want to take them and we'll

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slot them into the categories.
But by the end of by the end of

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each of our 6 picks, we have to
have three in each, I think.

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But before we get into that,
what what is better are?

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Are real presidents in movies
better or fictional ones?

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I don't know man.
It's tough, you know.

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It is.
It is because I think I think

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historical presidents can give
an actor so much room for a

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great performance.
Like we see with Lewis here in

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Lincoln for what she won an
Oscar.

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But I feel like there's just
something really fun about

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fictional presidents and putting
them in a situation that the

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president.
Would, yeah.

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Probably never find themselves
in yeah or or do things that you

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that the president would never
do so yeah, I think I might have

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to lean fictional president
personally just because it's fun

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for sure yeah, yeah.
It just leaves the door open for

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for so many more like like they
get what's that movie that's

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coming out soon called.
I think it's called heads of

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state where it's like John
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United States and Andrews Elba's
the Prime Minister of the UK.

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And it's like a it's like an
action comedy where they have to

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fight off terrorists together.
And it looks really fun.

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I kind of, I kind of want to see
it, but but especially with, you

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know, John Cena kind of being a
bit of a bumbling idiot and

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yourself was like the straight
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Yeah, trying to trying to be all
serious.

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So.
But yeah, just stuff like that.

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Like you can't, you can't like
you wouldn't, you can't have

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like Abraham Lincoln in a
situation like that.

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So.
Right.

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You know.
Right.

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Yeah, it it's fun.
I think fictional presidents are

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definitely more fun and we'll
we'll definitely get into.

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I like that you pulled an
example that is not eligible

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because it's not released yet.
So getting nice with that

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because I can't.
Even give any examples, It's not

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on my list.
I can't give him the trailer.

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And I was like, yeah, exactly.
I'm going to.

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Draft the trailer.
I'm going.

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To draft the president in this
movie trailer?

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No, not not allowed.
Yeah, I agree.

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I think, I think there are some
fun real president stuff that

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that we might get into depending
on how the draft goes.

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But yeah, I think when you're
when you're dealing with

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fictional, fictional material,
it can be fun, but it also can

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be like you can explore
scenarios that didn't happen

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most time.
Most of the time when you have

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like a real president in movie,
it's like you're exploring the

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real things that happened.
And I think even if it's not

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like a fun movie, a more like a
more serious drama, you're able

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to like maybe explore some
scenarios that haven't happened

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to our real president.
So and.

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It's crazy because I think we we
could have split this into a 1/3

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category because you have your
fictional presidents, then you

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have your historical presidents.
You could have split that into

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two where it's like historical
presidents historically

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portrayed, right, versus
historical presidents non

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historically portrayed, right.
Like whether it be a comedy or

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you know, or, or like, you know,
oh, what if kind of situation.

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Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, for sure.

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Yeah, I, I, so I think, I think
we're pretty much on the same

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page with that.
But yeah, I don't think, you

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know, usually I'll we'll talk
about like, oh, what criteria

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did we use for making our list?
Well, we just looked at what

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presidents we we've seen in.
Movies.

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I was actually surprised that I
expected to find a lot more

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options than I did, but yeah.
Me too.

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There's but there's honestly
like there's a whole Wikipedia.

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You can, there's a whole
Wikipedia page if you're

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interested in looking at this on
your own, but where you can just

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type actors that have played
presidents in movies.

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Well, actors and actresses.
But, and there's just like a

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whole Wikipedia page.
So it has like fictional

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representation, fictional
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It has the real presidents and
the real presidents it lists

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like in chronological order and
like all the people that have

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played them and what movie it
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And so it's pretty cool.
There's like, there's a decent

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amount of them, but when you
look through the list you're

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like, I've never heard of like
90% of these movies.

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Yeah, well, and it's also really
interesting, like, like you're

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Abraham Lincoln's or you're John
F Kennedy's have like a bunch of

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people have played them.
But then someone like, like

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George Washington, not that many
options.

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No.
Yeah.

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You know, I think it's all like
one guy that played Grover

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Cleveland in some some random TV
documentary thing one time, you

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know, just yeah.
Yeah, there's a lot of

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Lincoln's, there's a lot of
Nixon's, there's a few JFK's,

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but other than that, like most
of the presidents don't have a

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lot of options.
Yeah, like one or two maybe.

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Just aren't.
I mean Nixon and Lincoln.

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I I think, I mean JFK,
obviously, you know, with his

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assassination, that's kind of
interesting.

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But I but I do feel like Lincoln
and Nixon are the two that give

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an actor the most to work with
for.

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Very opposite reasons.
Yes, yeah, It's also really

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interesting, especially like I
was looking at the list for

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Nixon and just like the range of
actors that have played that him

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in different scenarios was
really fascinating.

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Yeah, yeah, I know for.
Me my my criteria is that I

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usually try and pick movies I've
actually seen because that's why

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I wanna I wanna, I wanna have
some conviction behind my voice,

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but.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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definitely not picking movies
that I haven't seen.

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I don't, I've never done that
before.

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And, you know, I, I don't
foresee any scenario where that

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would happen because typically,
like, I don't like, suggest a

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draft if I don't even have
enough movies to draft in it.

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So yeah, I'm trying to remember.
I'm going back because we did a

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Christian Bale movie draft last
time you were on.

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And you, yeah, you chose first
for that one.

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So I'm looking at it right now
#1 Patrick Bateman, the JP.

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So you took the first pick in
that one, so.

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And I still lost.
My turn.

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Still lost that track that's.
True, I thought he would take

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you a long way.
American Psycho, Christian Bale.

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But.
I think enough.

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I don't think enough people have
seen it outside of the.

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Beach.
Maybe not, maybe not.

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Yeah, definitely like a
cinephile favorite, I guess.

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Or letterbox bro favorite.
I don't know.

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I mean, I think I didn't really
get it.

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Like I don't think I'd ever
watch that movie again, but I

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did appreciate the context for
the memes.

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Yeah, say that.
Yeah, Yeah.

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And the acting is good.
Oh yeah, I mean, he's great.

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Absolutely for sure.
Also, we'll all right.

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It's hilarious.
All right, this is tough.

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Really, really tough.
I don't I don't know.

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So there's so I'll say this,
there's an upcoming draft that

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there's a little bit of overlap
with.

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And I have AII know that like
there's a pick I made in that

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one that like I wish I could
have back.

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And I might go ahead and just
like start this draft off by

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making up for that future draft
that no one's heard.

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And I might go ahead and pick
Peter Sellers as the president

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and Doctor Strangelove as my
first fictional president.

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So, yeah, I just think, I mean,
so Peter Sellers in that movie,

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obviously he plays three parts.
He plays the the titular Dr.

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Strangelove.
You.

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I'm assuming you've seen Doctor
Strangelove.

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Actually, I actually haven't.
It's always been on my list.

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It's one of the movies that's
always on my list, but yeah.

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Never got so I'll say this I I
only saw it for the first time.

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I can't remember if it was two
years ago or I think it was two

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years ago maybe.
I haven't seen it since.

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So I've only seen it the one
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But man, Peter Sellers plays, I
mean he put so he plays the

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titular Dr. Strangelove.
He plays President Merkin

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Muffley and he plays captain
Lion, old man Drake.

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He's playing three different
characters in this movie and

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he's just like incredible
hilarious.

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There's this.
You can look up the scene on

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YouTube.
It it would, it's not like

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spoiler or anything, but it's
him.

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I guess a little bit to this the
scenario, you can probably

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figure out what the scenario is
for the movie.

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The movie is like 60 years old.
Yeah, he's, he's on the phone

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with, I can't remember the name
of the, the Russian guy he's on

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the phone with, but the it's
like this hilarious phone call

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about like, hey, you know, some
of our guys went rogue and

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there's some bombs on the way or
whatever, potentially.

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And, you know, there's this like
back and forth of like kind of

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satirical back and forth of
like, you know, you know, well,

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obviously I'm calling because
this is important, you know, and

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then he's like, well, yeah, of
course I would have called just

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to talk.
You know, we we're, you know,

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we're, we're friends, you know,
of course I would.

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So it's like this really
hilarious back and forth.

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Great scene.
He's just great in the movie.

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I want to give big props to that
and maybe make up for a

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potential future snafu that I
made in a future draft that you

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will find out when it comes.
So yeah, so that's what I'm

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going to go with.
Doctor Strangelove, Fake

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president Number one pick.
Interesting.

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I think it's a good one.
I think, I think I'm also going

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to have to start with my my
first fake president, OK.

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And I I feel like I got to go
with possibly the greatest

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fictional president ever.
I got to go with Bill Pullman as

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Thomas Whitmore on Independence
Day.

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OK.
I mean, quite possibly, yeah.

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One of the greatest fictional
president portrayals of all

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time.
Phenomenal movie.

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I mean, his whole speech about
And they will know this is our

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Independence Day.
I mean it's.

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Great, I watched it on YouTube
the other day.

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Is it your first time seeing it?
No, no.

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Oh.
OK, OK, OK.

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You just have to watch.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was.

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Trying to like, it's been a
while since I've seen it.

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And I was like, OK, let me go
and watch some, like, YouTube

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scenes of, like some of these
presidents.

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And that pulled that one up.
And I was like, oh, this is

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still good.
Yeah.

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Even out of context.
And, and, and I love that he's,

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you know, he's just a like, it's
just a solid portrayal.

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He's just a solid character.
You know, he cares about people,

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just, you know, everything you
could want in a in a president.

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And which makes them all the
more fictional, actually.

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I guess so.
Sure.

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Sad.
Sad, but true.

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But I think I got to go with
Thomas Whitmore from

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Independence Day.
Yeah, it's great.

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Yeah, great pick.
I I, I think we're the it's it's

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not I don't know that he's would
be he's well, obviously he's

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not.
I picked a different fake

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president first, but fictional
president.

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But even a even Strangelove
aside, I think there might be

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another like big one that I
don't know.

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So I do have to do another pick
and I'm struggling like, do I

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go?
I, I don't think I'll, I think

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I'm going to stick in the
fictional president realm

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because I think that's where
like, we're both like really

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trying to snatch guys up.
And I'm not really sure like

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where you're going to go with
real presidents.

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And so I'm going to, I'm going
to go, it's OK.

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This is where it gets tough
because there's four fake

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presidents I really would love
to have.

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And one of them I don't think
you're going to pick, but all

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but another one I think you
might pick.

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And so I'm struggling of like,
OK, do I want to get the one

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that you might pick or do I want
to like, take the 1?

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I don't think you will and leave
the one for you.

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So at least both of them are on
our list.

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Minds games what the mind games
are all about, it's.

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You know, it's killing me.
OK, this is what I'm going to

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do.
I'm going to pick this one at

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the risk of leaving off a really
great one from my list that I

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want.
But I'm going to go the more

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like this is a great one that is
also going to be a crowd

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pleaser.
I'm going to pick President

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James Marshall from Air Force
One, Harrison Ford.

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You know, the the line, get off
my plane.

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Oh, so good.
So classic, yeah.

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So that's what I'm going with.
Great Harrison Ford action

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President performance.
Surprisingly, he has not played.

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I could have sworn he's played
more presidents, but apparently,

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well, apparently the only other
one he's played is President

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Thaddeus Ross.
Yeah.

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Embracing what's?
Referring to, unfortunately.

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Yeah, yeah.
I was like, when I saw him on

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the list, I was like, is that
really the only few times he's

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played a president?
Yeah, OK.

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He just feels so presidential,
You know, he's got, he's got

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that presidential finger.
Yeah, yeah, he's, I mean, it's,

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it's great.
I'm glad we have a Harrison Ford

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president and I'm glad to have
him on my list.

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So it's been a long time since
I've seen that movie.

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So definitely pulled up some
YouTube clips to refresh on that

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one.
Well, I think, I think I need to

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go with a fictional president
for Round 2 because I, I really

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want to lock this one in for me
because I'm, I'm really wanting

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to win this draft this time, you
know?

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OK, so, so I think another one
that I think a lot of people

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probably will have fond memories
of.

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And it is from a movie that if
you haven't seen it, maybe don't

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watch it because it might
depress you a little bit

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actually.
OK.

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I think I got to go.
I think I got to go with Terry

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Crews as President Camacho from
from Idiocracy.

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I'm so glad you picked this.
I I think, I think it's, you

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know, it's, it's one of those
movies that is so far ahead of

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its time.
And if you watched it right now,

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today, in 2025, you'll yeah,
it'll, it'll probably leave you

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with with quite a, quite a mood,
but yeah, yeah.

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I think Terry Crews love the
man.

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He's oh, man, he's so funny.
He's so funny and.

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What's his full name?
Cuz he said like gosh, I'd.

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Have to, I'd have.
To I know Mountain Dew is in

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there, President.
Something something mountain.

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Dew Camacho one second.
Oh man, it's great.

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It is.
Luke Wilson too.

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Luke Wilson in it.
Yes.

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You could also please President
not sure played on Luke Wilson.

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Yes, yes, his.
Full name is Dwayne Elizondo.

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Mountain Dew.
A bear Camacho or Herbert

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Camacho?
I don't know if it's a bear or

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Herbert.
It's probably Herbert because,

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yeah, I don't imagine it's not.
Cajun by Cajun.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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Quite the quite the name.
Quite the name.

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Yeah.
I love it.

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And he is.
He's hilarious.

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He's so funny.
Great pick.

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It's it's definitely like one of
those like mid 2000s comedies

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that.
It kind of like on the radar

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thing.
Yeah, it got lost, but also

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it's, I was going to say it's
one of those where it's like, I

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don't know that some of these
jokes would have gotten written

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today, but, you know, a little
bit, a little bit dated in that

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way, but yeah.
And in other ways, like yeah,

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very fun movie.
Actually had seen like parts of

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this in the past, but I did
actually watch it like a couple

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weeks ago because I knew this
was coming up and I love Terry

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Crews.
So I was like, let me see if I

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want to take a Terry Crews
president, but but alas, you got

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it, So I don't.
I don't know that I was going to

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take it honestly, but.
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All right, my I guess I think
I'm going to save my other fake

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president for now or fictional.
I keep saying fake.

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It's more fun to say fake
president because I do have two

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fictional ones that I still
want.

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But so I have two options there.
I'm going to go to the real

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president realm and I'm going to
take performance that I thought

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was really incredible.
It's a very like, it's a 1

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scene.
It's a recent performance and it

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is Harry S Truman in
Oppenheimer, played by Gary

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Oldman.
Just like knocks it out of the

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park in one scene.
So good.

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Apparently a very like
historically accurate

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conversation, you know, I mean,
like it's behind closed doors,

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but like things that were said
are noted in history.

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Like the whole like, I don't
want to see that crybaby, you

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know, scientist again, like
that's actually like documented.

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He said some something like
that.

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So like just like, and Gary
Oldman, just one of those guys

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that just transforms into
somebody else.

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Yeah, I'll say this like I don't
know a whole ton about President

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Harry S Truman, but I'll tell
you this, after watching him in

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this scene, 1 scene in this
movie, I don't like the dude.

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So, yeah, great, great
performance by old man there and

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Oppenheimer and yeah, yeah.
Great pick.

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And yeah, I got to say I I love
seeing him pop up in that movie.

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Fun fact about Gary Oldman is he
has played so many characters

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with different accents that he
actually had to relearn his

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native accent because he forgot
what it was.

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That's wild.
Yeah, he's great.

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I think, man, I man, one of
these days maybe you'll do a

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movie where you could just do a
Gary Oldman draft and that would

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be such a fun list to go.
Through yeah, yeah, that would

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be.
Cool.

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I love him.
And AS Jean Baptiste Zorg or

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whatever his name is in Fifth
Element, probably one of my

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favorites.
But yeah, that's a good option.

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That was that was one I was I
had on my list.

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But you know, you got to it
first.

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So that's how the game works,
folks.

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That's how the game works.
So all right.

403
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,520
Well, I think I'll also go ahead
and throw my first historical

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00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:08,680
president in there.
I think this is going to be, I'd

405
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say probably a childhood
favorite.

406
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This comes from a movie that my
family and I would watch every

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year on July 4th.
You know, so I grew up in a

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musical.
I grew up in a family where we

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00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,560
watched musicals all the time.
Pretty much everyone else in my

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00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,880
family plays some kind of
instrument except for me.

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And one of my favorite musicals
because I love History, has

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Always been 1776, which has
quite a few people who would

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become presidents in it.
But my favorite is kind of the

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central character and the stand
out.

415
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I'm gonna go with William
Daniels.

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00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:52,680
It's John Adams from 1776.
OK, never seen it.

417
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,880
Yeah, it's great.
It's great and he is great.

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It's the same, the same actor
that plays.

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I'm gonna date myself here
because I'm not super familiar

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with the show, but Boy meets
Worlds.

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00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,960
What's the name of the teacher
that's like lives next door to

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him that's like his?
Buddy, Mr. Feeney, Yeah.

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Yes, same actor.
That's that guy plays William

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Adams.
That's him.

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That's him.
And he plays John Adams in you

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know, this is one of those
movies where I tell the audience

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listening to this, if you're not
a big fan of musicals, totally

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understand.
I do think it'd be, you know,

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it's worth the while of like
just maybe looking up some

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scenes.
I think he played John Adams on

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the stage play and then they
they also had him play John

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Adams in the the film version
which they shot in 1976 for the

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that would have been what the
tricentennial bicentennial.

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00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,200
Yes.
Bicentennial Bicentennial

435
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,080
because it was 18761976 so.
Yeah, 1976.

436
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,600
Yep.
So I think a lot of the cast are

437
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,680
where people from the stage play
that got transferred over to the

438
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,320
film version.
But it's fun and and it's a

439
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,120
movie that it's like kind of on
a short list of like if I ever

440
00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:11,320
got an opportunity to remake a
film, I think an updated version

441
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,600
of something like 1776 would
kind of be cool.

442
00:26:14,120 --> 00:26:15,480
Yeah.
Maybe even Spielberg wanted to

443
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,320
do an update and like he did
with West Side Story.

444
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,280
I think that'd be really fun.
Yeah.

445
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:24,400
So yeah.
So is it like, is it like filmed

446
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,280
on sets or like is it?
Yeah, filmed on a.

447
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,840
Stage.
It's not.

448
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,960
Yeah, it's on sets.
It's so it's not like Hamilton,

449
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,680
right?
It's the recording of Hamilton

450
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,160
where it's just a stage play
recorded.

451
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:43,400
No, it's like on actual sets.
Most of it takes place within

452
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:49,800
the confines of the the building
which the first Congressional

453
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,080
Congress or Continental Congress
took place.

454
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,200
A lot of that makes sense.
Takes place just in that main

455
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,280
room cuz it's it's all centered
around the debates about the

456
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,160
Declaration of Independence is
kind of the main focus of the

457
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,240
makes sense of the film.
Yeah, cool.

458
00:27:06,120 --> 00:27:09,960
Yeah, Yeah, I've never seen it,
but I might have to check it out

459
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,320
now.
It's a fun, it's a fun 4th of

460
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,000
July watch for sure.
Yeah, yeah, I'm still watching

461
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,400
with Hamilton.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

462
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,480
My wife and I did like Musicals
of March, so we watched a bunch

463
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,760
of musicals in March.
But yeah, we're always down for

464
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:32,000
another one.
Yeah, OK.

465
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,960
This is where it gets tough.
I'm going to go ahead.

466
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,320
I'm just going to go ahead and
do this, take another real

467
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:46,400
president, but in a, in a more
like fictional portrayal.

468
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,280
So this is one of those that
like could fall into a whole

469
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:54,960
another category, but we're only
doing the two I'm going to I'm

470
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,960
going to take trying to find the
actor's name.

471
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:04,200
I'm going to take Robert V Baron
playing Abraham Lincoln and Bill

472
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,880
and Ted's Excellent Adventure.
I was full score.

473
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,680
And checks.
Watch 7 minutes ago.

474
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:19,720
Love it man man love love this
movie.

475
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,680
My wife really hoping that was
going to be a dark horse, one

476
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,000
that you somehow didn't know
about, you know, Yeah.

477
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,480
I thought I was really, really
pulling something from from from

478
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,440
deep when I found out what that
guy's dating.

479
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,560
But yeah.
And I mean, you gotta think.

480
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,440
Be excellent to each other and
party.

481
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:38,720
Excellent dude.
Yeah.

482
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,080
Yeah, it's great.
It it's phenomenal.

483
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,920
It's and, you know, you got to
you got to give real props to

484
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,480
this particular Lincoln because
he goes to the future.

485
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,200
He sees how everything's turned
out and he still, like, goes

486
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,720
back and just like, does exactly
what he was supposed to do, you

487
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,160
know, Because I mean, if he
didn't, you know, things would.

488
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:02,840
Affect.
Yeah, Butterfly.

489
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,240
Effects and he, you know, he
sticks to his convictions, just

490
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,680
like in the movie Lincoln that
we talked about last week, which

491
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,120
I should mention.
People might be wondering why

492
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,680
has no one taken Daniel Day
Lewis's Lincoln yet?

493
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,040
Because this is like a memorial
draft for that movie.

494
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:24,960
We like set it aside.
It's it's like the main, it's it

495
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,400
is the number 1 I think.
I think typically when we do

496
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,240
that question, when we do
drafts, we don't do that

497
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,120
whatever movie we're talking
about exactly so.

498
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,800
So just, but just in case anyone
was listening and didn't know

499
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:43,240
that I, I forgot to mention it
at the front, but yeah, Lincoln

500
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,720
obviously, I think would have
been really high up on both of

501
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,120
our choices and would have been
taken by now.

502
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:55,120
But yeah, it's set aside for the
sake of we discussed it last

503
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:56,680
time, so.
Yeah, All right.

504
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,760
OK, so I see, I see.
All right, You're playing,

505
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,280
playing a little dirty here, but
it's all right.

506
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,560
It's all right, I think.
Well, in that same van, I'll do

507
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:10,880
another historical president,
but a non historical portrayal

508
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,760
And look, you know him, you love
him.

509
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,560
I gotta go with Robin Williams
as Teddy Roosevelt from night at

510
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:23,440
the museum.
He is just such a such a lovely

511
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,800
presence in in all all of the
films the night.

512
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,480
I can't believe they made three
of those movies, but.

513
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,240
I can't either.
I don't think I've ever seen the

514
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,840
the other two.
Maybe they've seen the second

515
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,120
one.
I've probably seen the second

516
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,280
one, but not the third one.
But I I do have some fond

517
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,760
memories of the first one being
like a movie I liked when I was

518
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,720
younger.
So especially I think my

519
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:50,200
favorite scene is is no, it's
the United States of don't touch

520
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,640
that thing in front of you like
that.

521
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,280
That's the line that always
sticks with me.

522
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,480
But but yeah, I just, you know,
Teddy, like Robin Williams,

523
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:03,040
Teddy in these movies, he's just
a very warm like, like figure,

524
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,360
Yeah, who kind of is a, is a bit
of a of a mentor, so to speak,

525
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:12,080
for Ben Stiller's character.
And yeah, I just and a great

526
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,360
likeness too, I think, to the
real Teddy Roosevelt.

527
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,880
And I think, you know, RIP Robin
Williams gone too soon.

528
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,160
You know, we we are still
recording this during men's

529
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:23,960
mental health month
specifically, so June.

530
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,960
So definitely want to say, like
anyone listening out there,

531
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,200
especially with the men out
there, like if you're struggling

532
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,600
with things like, you know,
reach out to your friends, to

533
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:37,960
your family, let them know.
But man, it's, it's yeah.

534
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,120
There's just something about
like the funniest people are the

535
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:44,040
ones who who are dealing with
the most, you know, and it and

536
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,600
it and it also, I love a role
like this where like, yes, he

537
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,200
has an opportunity to be funny,
but also you get to see another

538
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,800
side of Robin Williams too.
And I and it it makes you wonder

539
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,120
what other kinds of performances
we could have gotten from him

540
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,640
had he still been with us.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

541
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,920
Yeah, Yeah.
I mean, great pick.

542
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:09,720
It was on my list of real
presidents, my short kind of

543
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,720
short list.
But yeah, that would have been

544
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,760
the other like fictional
portrayal of a real president

545
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,720
that I would have picked.
I might have.

546
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,720
I might have gone that.
I probably would have gone that

547
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,680
way if you had gone Bill and Ted
before me.

548
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,120
But yeah, I'm going to, I'm
going to go back to the

549
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,680
fictional president.
Well, I've made-up my mind who

550
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:41,320
I'm going to take.
And it is a president that might

551
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:46,360
feel a little bit too familiar
to our current situation today.

552
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:52,840
And you can only wonder what
would happen if, you know,

553
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:57,480
aliens from Mars came to Earth
under our current

554
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,200
administration.
Have no idea what would happen,

555
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,880
but but yeah, I'm taking Jack
Nicholson playing President Dale

556
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:10,360
and Tim Burton's Mars Attacks.
Have you seen Mars Attacks?

557
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:15,480
I have and he was also on my
list, which means I now need to

558
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:20,920
find another fictional president
option because I only had four

559
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,160
and he took two of them.
So oh man, OK.

560
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:26,600
It's all good.
It's all good.

561
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,280
We'll figure this out all.
Right, you have.

562
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,520
If you don't have anybody, I can
switch.

563
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,160
We'll we'll no, no, no at the
end of the draft.

564
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,360
That's right.
I got another one.

565
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:36,040
I got.
Yeah, I got.

566
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,840
I got.
You do OK.

567
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:38,800
Yeah.
Well, I'll figure it out.

568
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:41,760
All right, well, that's that's
my pick.

569
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:47,160
I mean, Jack Nicholson is great
in this role.

570
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,480
He's like, if you haven't seen
the movie, so like it's really

571
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:56,800
like crazy.
Tim Burton just like going nuts.

572
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,520
Yeah, very like, yeah, there's a
lot of wild stuff that happens

573
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,960
in this movie.
One of the like the funniest

574
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:09,800
things though, is that the
general like the I guess the

575
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,520
head military guys, like we got
to kill these fools.

576
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,360
These these Martians are like
crazy.

577
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:20,000
We just need to kill them.
And President Dale, he's he's

578
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,520
like trying to befriend them and
it just like it doesn't go

579
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,400
anywhere, like because they're
here to take over.

580
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:34,000
And yeah, he meets, he has quite
the fate.

581
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:41,360
President Dale, after a a
wonderful speech that is full of

582
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,480
a full of not like profound
nothings, I guess you could say.

583
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:53,639
So yeah, yeah, that's my third
fake president.

584
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,400
I'm leaving a really good one
that I don't think you're out.

585
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,440
You would take this one.
I don't think you, I don't know

586
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,640
if you've seen the movie.
But anyway, I'll I'll leave you

587
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,280
to take your second to last.
One might, might, might have to

588
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,880
at this point.
So I think I'll go ahead and

589
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,800
wrap up my my fictional
presidents.

590
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,520
And I think the other option I
got to go with that I just

591
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:20,120
reminded myself of from a movie
that I don't necessarily think

592
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,040
it was.
It's like one of the people that

593
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,080
you watch it, you're like, I
don't think this is as good or

594
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:30,240
as smart as people think it is.
But did kind of feel very

595
00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:34,200
relevant the year it came out.
And even now in some ways still

596
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,440
does.
I think I gotta go with Meryl

597
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,840
Streep as President Orlean from
Don't Look Up.

598
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,040
Yeah, I'm glad you took this
because we needed a female

599
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,200
president on here.
Yeah, yeah.

600
00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:47,320
You know, there, there are some,
there are some out there.

601
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:52,240
You know, I, I, I was kind of
interested in seeing.

602
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,680
I think Viola Davis is in this
movie called G20 where she's a,

603
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,920
she's the president in the G20
summit, gets taken over by

604
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,280
terrorists and she has to fight
them.

605
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,280
I've heard it's terrible, but I
do like Viola Davis.

606
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:05,960
So look, yeah, I kind of still
want to watch it.

607
00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:07,880
Yeah.
I mean you and Anthony.

608
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:13,080
Homelander himself, Anthony
Starr is is the bad guy, but.

609
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,480
But yeah, I have Angela Bassett
in the newest Mission

610
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,200
Impossible.
That's true.

611
00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:18,480
I haven't seen it, but that is
true.

612
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:20,840
But yeah, I do.
I mean, I love Meryl Streep.

613
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,960
Great actress, probably one of
the best of all time.

614
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:30,040
And I think I yeah, I think she
really, she really nails her

615
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:34,960
character who's just this kind
of very in some ways kind of

616
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,400
Trumpian, but but maybe a little
bit more intelligent and

617
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,200
intentionally kind of foolish.
And.

618
00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:44,560
And of course, like her death
scene at the end is like really,

619
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:45,320
really funny.
Yeah.

620
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:46,760
For sure.
And.

621
00:36:47,240 --> 00:36:49,480
Like has like really good
comedic chops.

622
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:54,840
Like she plays really well off
of Jonah Hill, who's like her, I

623
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,080
guess assistant or something
like that in the movie of sorts.

624
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,320
Yeah.
You wouldn't ever like, think.

625
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,840
Oh yeah, Meryl Streep and Jonah
Hill, that's a pair.

626
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,640
That's a pair that I'm looking
forward to.

627
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,200
But actually they play off each
other really well.

628
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:15,920
And I think she is a strong
point of the movie for sure for

629
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,160
Don't look like Don't Look Up as
one of those movies where like

630
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,880
some of it works and some of it
doesn't.

631
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,280
And I I wasn't like super.
I wasn't as negative as many

632
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,680
people were on the movie.
I thought it was fine.

633
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,960
But yeah, she's definitely a
strong point.

634
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,200
Meryl Streep, President.
What's her name in the movie

635
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:42,680
President?
Orlean Orlean Orlean Orlean,

636
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,840
ORLEAN.
Yeah.

637
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:52,200
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650
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,880
OK, I have to take another real
president.

651
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:46,440
This is my last pick.
I do have like a few options

652
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:53,080
left, two stronger options, and
I think I'm going to go with one

653
00:38:53,240 --> 00:38:57,200
that's probably not very.
This isn't going to get me any

654
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:58,880
votes, I don't think in the
poll.

655
00:38:59,240 --> 00:39:05,560
But it's I've caught up with it
in preparation for this and was

656
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,360
just kind of like blown away by
the performance.

657
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,840
But I'm going to play Philip
Baker Hall portraying Richard

658
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:17,720
Milhouse Nixon and Secret Honor.
Robert Altman's movie Secret

659
00:39:17,720 --> 00:39:21,400
Honor.
So this is a movie that is, I'm

660
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:27,320
pretty sure adapted from a stage
play and it's literally Nixon.

661
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,480
Philip Baker Hall's Nixon is the
only person in the whole movie.

662
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:35,920
It's just him and his little
like study and the, the, it's,

663
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:40,840
it's a fictional premise, but
it's, it's all based on like who

664
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,200
Nixon was and what we know about
him and, and all that.

665
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:52,920
And it's basically him like
recording the, the it's

666
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,280
basically him recording like a
memoir of him, like defending

667
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,360
himself.
So this is like post post

668
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:03,200
Watergate, post resigning post
like all this stuff.

669
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,920
And it's basically like him
defending himself and there's.

670
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:13,680
It's this interesting hour and a
half long monologue by 1 actor

671
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,080
in one room with the camera
following him around with

672
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:21,440
different angles.
And it's just really a really,

673
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,000
really interesting movie.
A really, really interesting

674
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:33,160
like exploration of like, what
are these men like Richard Nixon

675
00:40:33,240 --> 00:40:35,520
all like, what happened to these
men?

676
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,400
Why are they the way they are?
And you're, you're kind of

677
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:44,680
looking at him exploring like
his psyche at the end of his

678
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:50,120
like, era of power.
And, you know, there's moments

679
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,840
where like there's moments of
even a little bit of sympathy,

680
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:59,560
but it's kind of like this
exploring like, OK, yeah,

681
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,040
there's there's certain like
things from this person's

682
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:07,000
background that maybe made them
who they are, but it, it doesn't

683
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,480
excuse those things, but it
explores them.

684
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,640
And so it's it's really, really
good.

685
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,200
I really enjoyed it.
I thought Phillip Baker Hall was

686
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:21,280
really, really, I mean, to to be
in an hour and a half long movie

687
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,560
and you're the only one on
screen in one room.

688
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,680
Like you really have to go all
out.

689
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,520
And he's really, really good in
it.

690
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:34,240
So yeah, that's what I'm going
to pick from Secret Honor.

691
00:41:34,240 --> 00:41:38,880
Yeah, it is.
The only place it's streaming is

692
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:43,560
Criterion Channel.
But yeah, I haven't seen very

693
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,640
many Robert Altman movies.
He's one of those blind spots

694
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:53,560
that a very well like, well
respected director that I just

695
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:54,960
haven't seen enough of his
movies.

696
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,440
So yeah, this made me want to
check out some more so.

697
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,880
Yeah, great.
OK.

698
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:10,840
I think for my my last pick, my
last historical president, yeah,

699
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:16,320
I want to go with with a
performance that from from an

700
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,040
actor that I love and pretty
much everything that he does.

701
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,280
I think he's one of the best to
ever do it and a performance

702
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,080
you're probably very familiar
with and probably talked about

703
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,920
very recently.
I want to go with Sir Anthony

704
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,400
Hopkins as John Quincy Adams in
Amistad.

705
00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:39,520
Like I said, I I haven't seen
Amistad in a while, but I do

706
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:43,680
remember his performance being
being great and I love Anthony

707
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,920
Hopkins and pretty much anything
he does so.

708
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,760
Yeah, I, I don't.
So the thing about that movie is

709
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:55,360
like, I don't like how he's
maybe used necessarily in the

710
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:59,560
movie, but like his portrayal
and like his acting isn't the

711
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,120
problem.
Like he's phenomenal in the

712
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:06,680
part.
So my my problem would be more

713
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,400
like just like how it's used in
the movie and all that.

714
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,240
But but yeah, great.
I mean, great real president

715
00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:18,000
pick for sure.
And at the at the point at that

716
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:22,280
point in the movie, he's not
president, but that's because

717
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,920
he's still eligible, because he
was a president.

718
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,080
Right.
I mean, 1776, John Adams isn't

719
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,600
president yet, right?
He will, you know?

720
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:33,840
So yeah.
Yeah, yeah, great, great picks.

721
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,960
I think we got some great lists.
Any honorable mentions you want

722
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,360
to throw out there for for real
or fictional?

723
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:46,960
Yeah, I think, you know, I, I
never finished the series, but

724
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:53,400
I, I did really enjoy Kevin
Spacey as Frank Underwood in

725
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:57,440
House of Cards, and I do believe
he becomes president in like the

726
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,120
second season or whatever.
Yeah, I've watched like maybe a

727
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:05,920
few episodes of that, but yeah.
Yeah, and I also, I really love

728
00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:13,280
Aaron Eckhart in the Fallen
franchise.

729
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,400
The I get, I think he's only the
president.

730
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,280
He's in the he's the president
in Olympus, his Fallen and

731
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:25,040
London has fallen and by by the
third film, Angel has fallen.

732
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,600
Morgan Freeman's character is is
president.

733
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,400
Gotcha.
But but in the first film

734
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,920
especially, I think I think he
does a pretty solid job.

735
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,880
You know, he he's very, very
presidential.

736
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,240
I think he has a very
presidential face, like he has a

737
00:44:41,240 --> 00:44:42,960
politician.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

738
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,880
You know, and, and he's one of
those actors where I'm like,

739
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,360
man, I, I don't know why his
career is kind of falling off in

740
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:56,040
the way that he that it has, but
you know, I, I guess it happens

741
00:44:56,040 --> 00:45:00,080
to everybody.
And I think, yeah, I think, I

742
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,520
think that's, that's kind of the
ones I can really think of.

743
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,760
I think I, there's a few more I
kept seeing pop up on like every

744
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,720
single list that that I looked
at.

745
00:45:08,720 --> 00:45:13,640
But and then maybe I I haven't
seen it yet, but I've heard that

746
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,680
Sebastian Stan is amazing in The
Apprentice.

747
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,960
Yeah, I have also not seen that
so.

748
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,760
So an honorable mention for
myself that I need to watch

749
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:27,680
that, yeah.
Yeah, my my honorable mentions

750
00:45:27,720 --> 00:45:31,280
for I have a couple for real
president.

751
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:37,000
So have you seen the movie
Selma?

752
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,400
Maybe.
Maybe like bits and pieces but.

753
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:46,280
Yeah, a really good movie, but
Tom Wilkinson plays Lyndon B

754
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,760
Johnson in that movie.
Really, really good performance

755
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,520
in that.
And then I also watched John

756
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:59,880
Ford's Young Mr. Lincoln with
Henry Fonda playing Abraham

757
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,440
Lincoln kind of in the
beginnings of his career as a

758
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,200
lawyer and politician.
And it's pretty good.

759
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:10,640
It I didn't love it, but but
it's a good movie.

760
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,640
It's, you know, 1939 John Ford
movie.

761
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,400
So yeah.
And I did I.

762
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,080
Didn't count era, you know,
Yeah.

763
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:24,320
For sure, I didn't count this as
like a proper movie, even though

764
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:30,560
I really wanted to take either
Christopher Jackson as George

765
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,720
Washington or Davey Diggs as
Thomas Jefferson in the

766
00:46:33,720 --> 00:46:38,360
recording of Hamilton, though
either of those could have been

767
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:43,520
my very first pick if but I was
like, it's kind of in that Gray

768
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:47,280
area of I think it I think it's
doing enough with the camera

769
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:48,840
where you can count it as a
movie.

770
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,560
But I'll just leave it and do an
honorable mention, you know?

771
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,120
Yeah, especially who plays
George Washington.

772
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,920
I just said his name and now
I've forgotten.

773
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:01,080
All right.
Christopher Jackson.

774
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:02,680
So.
Freaking good.

775
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,960
I mean I love W digs as as
Thomas Jefferson, but I think.

776
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,120
I would have picked Washington,
yeah.

777
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:13,000
I actually think I prefer him as
Lafayette in the the first half.

778
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,040
Yeah.
But yeah, but Christopher

779
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:19,880
Jackson as Washington, his
voice, the way he he performs

780
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:24,880
those songs, like in my mind.
And I I'd also say like, you

781
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:30,440
know, 1776 includes quite a
quite a few other presidents to

782
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,560
be.
I mean, you got Thomas Jefferson

783
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,760
is in there.
He plays, he's like kind of like

784
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,720
the main tree.
The main trio is like John

785
00:47:37,720 --> 00:47:40,240
Adams, Thomas Jefferson and
Benjamin Franklin.

786
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,080
OK, Like that's kind of like
your main, your main 3.

787
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,280
And then there's a bunch of
other, much like Lincoln,

788
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,560
there's a bunch of other
representatives that have like

789
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,840
more bit parts, but that's kind
of your main kind of trifecta.

790
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,400
Like they have like a whole song
they do together and everything.

791
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,800
So.
So, yeah, I think, I think it's

792
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,800
kind of a similar thing where
there's, there's these other

793
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,160
really great performances in
there.

794
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:06,080
But yeah, but yeah,
surprisingly, like I said, I, I

795
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,320
think you know this, this draft
made me realize that there's not

796
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:13,000
as many options out there as I
as I would have expected.

797
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,320
Yeah, I feel like there's a.
Lot of people would know.

798
00:48:16,720 --> 00:48:20,760
Yeah, yeah, this is the so the
one that I really wanted to take

799
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,160
and just, I don't know, I left
it off my list.

800
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:27,680
It's probably one of my favorite
movies of all the movies we've

801
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,280
mentioned.
I watched it last year for the

802
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:36,000
first time, Cindy Lumet's Fail
Safe 1964.

803
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:40,120
Have you ever seen this movie?
It's also a Henry Fonda playing

804
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:44,400
the president unnamed president
in this site.

805
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,640
I did see a lot of them were
called the president.

806
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,880
Right.
Yeah, but yeah, that counts.

807
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:56,280
This movie is so freaking good.
It's like a it is like a

808
00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:01,520
political thriller.
Where some, there's some like,

809
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:08,480
it's like Cold War era, there's
some bombers that don't get a

810
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:13,320
certain code at a certain time
and are going and their radios

811
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,480
are cut off.
And so they, they're not getting

812
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,480
the directive that they're not
supposed to go drop bombs on

813
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,280
Russia.
And so and then that's, you

814
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,280
know, it's, it's cutting between
all that.

815
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:28,000
And then it's just Henry Fonda
with his, like, assistant in

816
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,120
this room with a phone, like
making calls.

817
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,760
And it's just like captivating
and thrilling.

818
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,360
And Henry Fonda is really good
in it has to make a very

819
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:42,600
difficult decision at, you know,
towards the end of the end of

820
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,720
the movie.
That's very, very, very good.

821
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,960
And interesting last last
honorable mention, you know, if

822
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:59,160
you want to do a 2012 Lincoln
movie, you know, double feature

823
00:49:59,720 --> 00:50:05,040
Abraham Lincoln, vampire hunter.
Or alternatively you could watch

824
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:11,720
the Asylum parody Abraham
Lincoln versus Zombies, which

825
00:50:11,720 --> 00:50:13,920
features like a 10 year old
Teddy Roosevelt.

826
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:18,640
So OK, yeah, yeah, that I, I
watched that one as a kid.

827
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,240
I think we actually rented that
movie from like Blockbuster or

828
00:50:21,240 --> 00:50:23,760
something or Hollywood Video
back there.

829
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,920
Maybe it was Netflix or I don't
know.

830
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,840
Somehow I remember we, my family
and I, we watched that movie and

831
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,960
at the time I think I actually
preferred that over Abraham

832
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,200
Lincoln Vampire Hunter because I
think it's one of those movies

833
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:39,120
where it's like awesome premise,
terrible execution.

834
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,280
But I haven't seen a.
Lot yeah, I've I have not heard

835
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,720
many.
I've not heard great things

836
00:50:44,720 --> 00:50:48,400
about Abraham Lincoln, Vampire
Hunter, obviously, but like

837
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:52,880
it's, I feel like the vibe I get
is that it's not one of those

838
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,360
types of bad movies that's still
like really fun to watch.

839
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,960
Yeah, well, I mean, the the the
most, it had some cool.

840
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,280
I haven't seen him forever, but
I remember it had like some cool

841
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,160
action stuff.
I mean, it was kind of at the

842
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,600
height of like 3D, so there's
like some of that stuff in

843
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:09,400
there.
Yeah.

844
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,560
I think the most interesting
thing about it is, and they kind

845
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,120
of do this in Abraham Lincoln
Versus Zombies as well as part

846
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,840
of the parody, is they framed
the assassination by John Wilkes

847
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:25,280
Booth to cover for the fact that
Abraham Lincoln is infected and

848
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:26,960
he's soon to turn into a
vampire.

849
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,040
I believe.
It's been a long time since I've

850
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,440
seen it, but I believe that
that's what the explanation is

851
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,320
for that.
It's a little bit questionable

852
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,600
of a choice, but yeah.
Yeah, well, but, but I think

853
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,720
it's, I think it's like I, I
think if I remember correctly,

854
00:51:40,720 --> 00:51:43,120
it's like John Wilkes Booth
still hates Lincoln, but they

855
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:47,080
like, they like pay him to do it
and like be the fall guy for it.

856
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,520
But he like is like, sure more
than happy to do it.

857
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,640
Yeah.
Oh, that's great.

858
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:56,960
Yeah.
I mean, I think we ended up with

859
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:03,120
some great lists.
I would say honestly, like if I

860
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,240
could recommend any of these
movies to watch, it wouldn't

861
00:52:06,240 --> 00:52:10,680
even be I would I would
recommend people watch Fail Safe

862
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,080
because I just think it's a
really great, you know, classic

863
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:19,080
Sidney Lumet movie of such
classics as, you know, 12 Angry

864
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:23,080
Men and Dog Day Afternoon and
yeah.

865
00:52:23,720 --> 00:52:27,760
It sounds like Have you seen
Black Sunday?

866
00:52:29,720 --> 00:52:33,560
No, I haven't, but I know what
you're talking about it because

867
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:37,000
it relates.
It came up in Munich talking

868
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,400
about Munich, so.
Yeah, I think I think we

869
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:43,200
actually may have talked about
it during Dark Knight Rises.

870
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,040
Did I, I don't know if I did, I
don't know or not.

871
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:49,560
But because it was one of the
movies that they that they had

872
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,600
everybody watch before they did
that movie The Rises.

873
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:56,840
And it it sounds there's some
plot points you said that sounds

874
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,560
similar where it's like it's
this really weird premise that

875
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,640
wouldn't work these days where
like they get in this like blimp

876
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:06,720
and it's designed for the to
drop to explode and it's going

877
00:53:06,720 --> 00:53:09,440
to drop all these lawn darts and
kill a bunch of people in this

878
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:13,360
football arena.
But outside of that kind of very

879
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:21,720
1970s silly premise, it's a very
intense like movie like as far

880
00:53:21,720 --> 00:53:25,960
as like how they set up the plot
in like these like kind of eco

881
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,040
terrorists, so to speak, kind of
formulating this attack.

882
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,640
And like it was it was quite
it's quite tense.

883
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,760
It's very good.
So but fail safe sounds great.

884
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,240
Yeah, definitely give that a
watch.

885
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,120
Yeah, I highly, highly recommend
it.

886
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:42,800
And in fact, like I was doing
kind of a Sidney Lumet watch

887
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,600
through filling in a bunch of
blind spots last year because it

888
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,720
was it would have been his 100th
birthday last year.

889
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:55,840
And I think after what I ended
up with like 10 of his movies

890
00:53:56,040 --> 00:54:01,160
logged and that was my favorite
of all of them, even over.

891
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,200
Some of the lists.
The Wiz?

892
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:04,960
Yep.
Oh, 12 anchor men.

893
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,400
OK, yeah, I'm looking at his his
list right now.

894
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:08,840
Yeah.
Serpico.

895
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,440
I've heard of a bunch of these
before.

896
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:12,880
The devil knows you're dead.
Yeah.

897
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:14,320
Yeah, great.
The.

898
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,440
Original murder Only Orient
Express.

899
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:20,320
OK, yeah, I haven't seen most of
these, but I've definitely heard

900
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,840
a lot of these names.
Yeah, he's just worth, he's just

901
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,680
worth watching through like his
filmography.

902
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:30,360
He would be a great like future
subject for the show for sure.

903
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,680
But he's, it sounds like kind of
like a like a John Mctiernan,

904
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,480
you know, where it's like just
has all these random movies

905
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,600
that, that you kind of did that
you're like, oh, I didn't know

906
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,080
that was his film.
Yeah, yeah.

907
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,560
So yeah, I'll read back our
lists and then we'll wrap up.

908
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,200
So I'm not going to read them in
the order picked.

909
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:54,120
I'm just going to read through.
So JP ended up with his three

910
00:54:54,240 --> 00:55:00,320
real president picks were 1776,
Night at the Museum, and

911
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:05,040
Amistad, and his three fictional
president picks were

912
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:09,280
Independence Day, Idiocracy, and
Don't Look Up.

913
00:55:09,720 --> 00:55:12,640
Great list.
My picks.

914
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:17,840
My real presidents were from
Oppenheimer, Bill and Ted's

915
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:23,520
Excellent Adventure and Secret
Honor, and my fictional

916
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:28,120
presidents were from Doctor
Strangelove, Air Force One, and

917
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,160
Mars Attacks.
So 2 great lists.

918
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:36,080
I think it'll be fun to see what
what people go with.

919
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,720
I think.
So I think for your list, I

920
00:55:39,720 --> 00:55:43,160
think Independence Day and night
at the Museum are going to be

921
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,480
the, the, the vote pullers.
I, I'm.

922
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:50,000
Hoping Idiocracy enjoyers will
be like Oh yeah.

923
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,400
Yeah, maybe so.
Maybe, maybe I'll I'm hoping for

924
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,280
an Air Force.
One Oppenheimer pool.

925
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:56,800
That's what I'm hoping for, you
know?

926
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,400
Yeah, probably, probably I
think, but I don't know.

927
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,760
I think, I think Independence
Day is kind.

928
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,480
Of Independence Day is a good
one, yeah.

929
00:56:03,720 --> 00:56:05,920
It's the bulldozer in this race
for sure, but.

930
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,800
Yeah, I think so.
I think people will buy it and

931
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:12,320
just pick your pick your options
regardless so but we'll see.

932
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,400
Yeah, probably so.
People love me?

933
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:21,080
I guess so.
My mom always votes for me even

934
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,600
if she's never seen any of the
movies that I picked.

935
00:56:24,240 --> 00:56:26,640
So thanks mom.
Shout out to my mom.

936
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,440
That's that's all we have for
this week though.

937
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:35,880
You can follow JP on his
Instagram or on Letterbox, which

938
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:40,000
I will link in the episode
description to see what what

939
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:41,680
he's up to and what movies he's
watching.

940
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,160
So go do that whenever you
finish the show.

941
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,600
But yeah, that's all we have for
this week.

942
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:51,080
Next week we are going to jump
back into Spielberg with Bridge

943
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:56,080
of Spies, the third Tom Hanks
collaboration with Spielberg.

944
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,360
So that'll be fun.
Already recorded that.

945
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:03,120
It's a good episode.
So yeah, check that out next

946
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,600
week.
But until then, I've been Eli

947
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:09,040
Price for JP Boudreaux.
You've been listening to the

948
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,440
establishing shot.
We'll see you next time.

949
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:19,440
We were happy here for a little
while, but look, I think it was

950
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,720
this way.
Better to be king for a night

951
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:22,760
than smoke for a lifetime.

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Favorite Director(s):
Christopher Nolan, Denis Villenueve, Akira Kurosawa, to name a few

Guilty Pleasure Movie:
Aliens vs. Predator